caplock Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 After deciding to change the scope that was on my CZ varmint HMR I have for sale Nikko Stirling Gold crown 4-12X50 AO. Illuminated Number 4 reticule, quick adjust and zero resettable turrets. Comes with pair of high mounts, allen keys and flip up scope covers, of which the front one has a split rubber but grips very well, instructions and also spare lithium cell. Absolutely mint no marks. Brilliant for lamping as the ret is very unfusy at night for lamping with the illuminated cross providing spot on reference for shot placement, £80 posted Cheers sketch of the ret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caplock Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 as was, very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 anyone for a decent night scope?? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 great scope ,if it were 40/44 obj..i'd have had it!! fantastic quality lenses,those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Evilv Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 How high would the lowest point of the front lense be lifted above the level of the scope rail? I ask because my CZ 425 has iron sights which the object lense has to clear, if you see what I mean. A 42 front lense just fouls the rear iron sight with ordinary mounts. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi ev Good question actually I never bothered to look as the varmint had no sights. From memory i think it was about 10 mm but this would depend on the mounts used. I know my mate has to remove the rear sight element/ramp when using a scope with a large objective with his cz classic .22. pm me if you are interested in a scope only price should you want to shop around and get your own mounts locally Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi evGood question actually I never bothered to look as the varmint had no sights. From memory i think it was about 10 mm but this would depend on the mounts used. I know my mate has to remove the rear sight element/ramp when using a scope with a large objective with his cz classic .22. pm me if you are interested in a scope only price should you want to shop around and get your own mounts locally Cheers I was sort of half hoping the 'hi' mounts would make it clear the iron sight. I'm using a 4x32 on the new CZ at the moment, and I've had a hell of lot of rabbits in the last month since I got it - over a hundred, but small mag sight isn't up to the accuracy of the rifle at ranges over 50yards. The guesswork involved in a 70 yard rabbit head with a 4Xmag sight is too great for really good shooting. I'm amazed that the group sizes are as small as they are on zeroing targets, given that I'm guessing where the bull is by centring the cross in the outer ring because I can't see the bull under the cross hairs. Any chance you could measure the height of the bottom of the objective in relation to the scope rail please. I note your guess of 10mm, but you'll understand I need to know the exact rise given by the hi mounts you're including in the deal as described. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi ev Good question actually I never bothered to look as the varmint had no sights. From memory i think it was about 10 mm but this would depend on the mounts used. I know my mate has to remove the rear sight element/ramp when using a scope with a large objective with his cz classic .22. pm me if you are interested in a scope only price should you want to shop around and get your own mounts locally Cheers I was sort of half hoping the 'hi' mounts would make it clear the iron sight. I'm using a 4x32 on the new CZ at the moment, and I've had a hell of lot of rabbits in the last month since I got it - over a hundred, but small mag sight isn't up to the accuracy of the rifle at ranges over 50yards. The guesswork involved in a 70 yard rabbit head with a 4Xmag sight is too great for really good shooting. I'm amazed that the group sizes are as small as they are on zeroing targets, given that I'm guessing where the bull is by centring the cross in the outer ring because I can't see the bull under the cross hairs. Any chance you could measure the height of the bottom of the objective in relation to the scope rail please. I note your guess of 10mm, but you'll understand I need to know the exact rise given by the hi mounts you're including in the deal as described. Many thanks No problems I'm out with the rifle tmrww and will check for you. I do think though that the rear sight asy will have to be removed as any of the cz's with iron sights that I've seen have been when used with a scope above 32mm objective. P.s I 'm guessing that the mounts included are 'high' although I don't have any definative specs as to what constitutes a high mount. Maybe someone more in the know can enlighten me Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hi ev Good question actually I never bothered to look as the varmint had no sights. From memory i think it was about 10 mm but this would depend on the mounts used. I know my mate has to remove the rear sight element/ramp when using a scope with a large objective with his cz classic .22. pm me if you are interested in a scope only price should you want to shop around and get your own mounts locally Cheers I was sort of half hoping the 'hi' mounts would make it clear the iron sight. I'm using a 4x32 on the new CZ at the moment, and I've had a hell of lot of rabbits in the last month since I got it - over a hundred, but small mag sight isn't up to the accuracy of the rifle at ranges over 50yards. The guesswork involved in a 70 yard rabbit head with a 4Xmag sight is too great for really good shooting. I'm amazed that the group sizes are as small as they are on zeroing targets, given that I'm guessing where the bull is by centring the cross in the outer ring because I can't see the bull under the cross hairs. Any chance you could measure the height of the bottom of the objective in relation to the scope rail please. I note your guess of 10mm, but you'll understand I need to know the exact rise given by the hi mounts you're including in the deal as described. Many thanks No problems I'm out with the rifle tmrww and will check for you. I do think though that the rear sight asy will have to be removed as any of the cz's with iron sights that I've seen have been when used with a scope above 32mm objective. P.s I 'm guessing that the mounts included are 'high' although I don't have any definative specs as to what constitutes a high mount. Maybe someone more in the know can enlighten me Cheers OK mate. I'm off this afternoon and out shooting so will look at how the rear sight comes off. If it's simple to remove and reinstate it might be suitable. Just send me the measurement from the scope rail level to the bottom of the objective if you can. Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Will do Ev I'll have a look soon. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hi Ev Right just had a measure up. I've placed the scope on an air rifle to compare, as I spent a while re zeroing the new scope I didn't want to remove it before tonights session!. My CZ varmint has 1 or 2mm more lift between the receiver and barrel as compared to the air rifle whose cylinder grooves are machined almost parallel it's barrel. The gap shown between objective and cylinder is 8mm The mounts are 50mm high from tip to top. Are these high mounts??, dunno. Pics attached. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Ahh maybe the mounts are not high. Just remembered I had lone mount rattling around in a drawer and this is 5mm higher than the mounts with the scope at 55mm tip to top. Only one though, god knows where the other went. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Evilv Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hi - thanks for the photos Tracker. I think they are high mounts, but they aren't a pair. If you had another of the ones with the lower opening, it would be great. I believe they are for use with open sights, allowing you to use the open sight through the hole underneath the scope. Odd, but I an remember times in pi**ing rain when I could have used that feature when the scope was soaked, misted and useless. It looks to me that if you had two of those mounts, it would fit fine. I don't really want to take off the open sight though. I'll lose it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Ahaa.... after much searching and drawer emtying the other mount has turned up. So scope can be supplied with either 50mm solid mounts or 55mm shoot through mounts if iron sights still want to be used for quick target pickup. Phew............ Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothlybeer Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 whats best price posted ime intrested .with solid mounts.cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 £80 posted first class recorded delivery, mounts of your choice. evily has expressed interest and therefore is no 1 in Q, waiting for cheque. Scope cost £110 just over the year ago Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 £80 posted first class recorded delivery, mounts of your choice. evily has expressed interest and therefore is no 1 in Q, waiting for cheque. Scope cost £110 just over the year agoCheers I agreed to buy it, but if smoothely beer is desperate for it, I'm Ok. It's not a problem. If he is serious I don't mind. Do you want it Smoothely mate? Say the word and it's yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Gents pls get back to me as to outcome, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothlybeer Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 no not desperate,was intrested because got one of these non ill on my 222 its bang on,havnt seen a ill one though thought itd do for spare and its prob cheap at what your asking, but not cheap enough yet to be tempted and ramsbotom doin 4.5-14x50pxad £65 new posted with flip ups etc it was just the illuminated bit that was sumat diffrent that prompted me to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Ok Caplock. I'll put a cheque in the post this weekend, unless you want to do Paypal, in which case you can have the money in your account more or less right now. I'll check back later and then sort it out. - oh and unlike smoothelybeer, I need the see through mounts. Cheers. EDIT: Cheque in post now. You shpuld have it by Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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