ste 2712 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 After having a break from shooting and selling all my guns!! Of which I really regret now there gone! I have decided to buy some new ones my problem is when I sold my rifles I never sent my cert in to have them removed and free the slots up again, so after speaking to the fld they explained that because I never applied for a 1-4-1 variation at the time I need to send in a variation for all my calibres to be put back on . The thing that has me concerned is the ammo in your possession part on the form as I still have the odd box of rounds for calibres i know longer have on my ticket so i have learned. So I'm just wondering where I stand am I breaking any laws by having them in my safe even tho I had the calibres on ticket up until a couple of months ago and they are the same ones I am putting a variation in for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Whilst you do not currently have slots to purchase the firearms - you still have the purchase/hold authority for the ammo - just list what you have. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Put in on your variation for a ammo collection mine is 2000 rounds upto .50 expanding head so it covers it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Whilst you do not currently have slots to purchase the firearms - you still have the purchase/hold authority for the ammo - just list what you have. Mike great cheers for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Put in on your variation for a ammo collection mine is 2000 rounds upto .50 expanding head so it covers it all Didnt even know that was possible! so you can buy any ammo up to 50 bmg even if you dont have the slots for the rifle ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Didnt even know that was possible! so you can buy any ammo up to 50 bmg even if you dont have the slots for the rifle ?? yes you can the holder of this certificate may acquire and posses a maximum of 2000 rounds of ammunition to which section 1 of the firearms act 1968 (as amended) applies as part of a collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 yes you can the holder of this certificate may acquire and posses a maximum of 2000 rounds of ammunition to which section 1 of the firearms act 1968 (as amended) applies as part of a collection cheers for that :good: i will get that put on my cert then as i have always fancied collecting really obscure ammo but never thought i could without specific slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 yes you can the holder of this certificate may acquire and posses a maximum of 2000 rounds of ammunition to which section 1 of the firearms act 1968 (as amended) applies as part of a collection Expanding ammo is section 5 though. You can collect it but you need your certificate to specifically authorise collection of ammo which is otherwise section 5. There is a specific exemption in the Act to allow collecting of section 5 ammo which goes even further than allowing the acquisition of expanding ammo; it allows you to collect things like incendiary and armour piercing ammo. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I would have thought if you had the slots removed for the rifle your ammo purchase would have gone with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I would have thought if you had the slots removed for the rifle your ammo purchase would have gone with it Why, all he did was sell his guns not give up his fac. Just like when you sell a rifle and then replace it with a new one, your ammo authority remains on your fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I'd speak to your FEO. To me, if you've had the slots taken off...the ammo should go with it. But that's just my logic and may be wrong. The above comments suggest I can walk into a gun shop and ask for ammo with a caliber not on my FAC. That's not going to happen is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hang on. Maybe I read the original post wrong. You still have the slots written on your FAC but you don't have the physical gun to fill them? Or You have had the slots taken off your FAC because you no longer have/want that gun/caliber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 If you sell your Rifles and Dont put in for a One for One Variation you loose the slot for that caliber , if you've lost the slot then you dont have Good Reason to hold ammo for that caliber in Theory any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) If you sell your Rifles and Dont put in for a One for One Variation you loose the slot for that caliber , if you've lost the slot then you dont have Good Reason to hold ammo for that caliber in Theory any way You don't lose the authority to posses the ammo until they police actually withdraw the authority from your cert. If you have simply sold the gun and notified them of that then you are still lawfully in possession of the ammo until such time as they amend your FAC. J. Edited February 25, 2013 by JonathanL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 sorry should have made it clearer, i still have the slots on my cert as i never sent it in to be amended! but i sold my rifles and never applied for a 1for1 so i lost the slots, so i have had to pay for a variation now! but after enquieries it was ok as said in the above post "You don't lose the authority to posses the ammo until they police actually withdraw the authority from your cert. If you have simply sold the gun and notified them of that then you are still lawfully in possession of the ammo until such time as they amend your FAC." cheers for all the advice its now time to go shopping for new guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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