shakari Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've gotta say I reckon we made an excellent choice by coming here. Crime is virtually non existent, the weather is pretty good (not quite as good as Africa though) and the hunting, shooting & fishing is miles better than I could ever have possibly imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I've gotta say I reckon we made an excellent choice by coming here. Crime is virtually non existent, the weather is pretty good (not quite as good as Africa though) and the hunting, shooting & fishing is miles better than I could ever have possibly imagined. take it you never went for the golf then lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakari Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I reckon golf is a waste of a good walk...... we lived on what's called a secure golf estate when we were in RSA....... we lived there for about 12 years and the only time I set foot on the course was once when I took my neighbour's 2 sons out to keep them entertained. The good thing about living there was the security which is always a massive concern in RSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 It absolutely isn't bad advice. I was first told it by one of the directors of Eley many years ago & he had their tech dept confirm it in writing to me & they have since re-confirmed it to me twice more. I have however emailed Eley and asked them to reconfirm. Just out of interest, any reply yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakari Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sorry mate, I got tird up with business and then forgot all about about this. It took me 3 emails before I found out Eley & Eley Hawk were two separate companies and when I got through to Eley Hawk they were very PC in their replies.......... From what I could gather they no longer have a proper technical dept and the closest I could get to one was a production manager who said one should stick to the chamber size but wouldn't tell me if he was just in charge of the machines or was actually a development engineer etc. Then I tried the Birmingham proof house who said: "n regards to your recent enquiry, as a Proof House we would never recommend the use of 2 ¾” cartridges in a 2 ½” gun regardless of the overall length/style of crimping. I would add that we receive many shotguns every year for Re-proof, that have had their chambers lengthened from 2 ½” to 2 ¾”". So quite honestly, I don't know what to think. I've always followed the advice I was given by the director and tech dept of Eley all those years ago and have never had a problem and have never had any feathering of a rolled case but that said, maybe I shouldn't. There's also the issue that I was given that advice something like 15 or 20 years ago and that powders have changed since then and I'd probably get the same performance from a 2 1/2 shell now as I used to get from a 2 3/4 inch shell then and that of course raises the question of has this increased chamber pressures? One thing I know I won't be doing is having the chambers of my John Dickson & Son lengthened because I've just had a quote for something like UKP800 to do the job! - Stuff that for a lark..... I only paid USD600 for the gun! FWIW, Just before I left RSA I had the gun worked on, checked over and serviced by a guy who is probably one of the best, if not the very best shotgun smith in the country and he didn't comment about any problems at all so I guess the gun hasn't been damaged at all by the loads I'd been using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thank you. Think they're a matched pair as I had similar nonsense from Eley with regard to their subsonic ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 now i understand thanks mat id rather look silly on here than the club No such thing as a silly question. Far better to ask and get the answer than not ask and have things go wrong. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakari Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thank you. Think they're a matched pair as I had similar nonsense from Eley with regard to their subsonic ammo. I think the problem is the world is so PC now & a straight answer is as rare as rocking horse doo doos.............. Oh for the days when a spade was a spade rather than an earth inverting horticultural implement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 To try to help the OP a little more maybe someone with a little more knowledge or a better way of putting things over could explain things a bit further. Lets say that we have a fixed choke shotgun that is chambered/proofed for 70mm cartridges. Would there be any difference in velicity etc between using say a 67mm cartridge loaded with 28g of 6 shot and a 70mm cartridge again loaded with 28g of 6 shot? i.e. Does that extra 3mm in cartridge length make any real difference. It should do if the 3mm is used to accomodate more powder. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Let us know how you get on with your 'Good Reason' for having that little lot here in the UK! Easy. Join a club and put down target shooting as the good reason. I've had .416 Rigby and .460 Weatherby like that without any problems at all. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I reckon golf is a waste of a good walk...... we lived on what's called a secure golf estate when we were in RSA....... we lived there for about 12 years and the only time I set foot on the course was once when I took my neighbour's 2 sons out to keep them entertained. The good thing about living there was the security which is always a massive concern in RSA. A golf course is a waste of a perfectly good rifle range! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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