wildfowler.250 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Do many folk on here shoot black backs,(greater) for protecting gamebirds or livestock? I don't know if its just on the Scottish licence or England as well? I suppose this will be slightly dictated by where you shoot,(ie. near the coast) but would be interested to know. Not something that gets mentioned often anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 just to answer part of your question...Lesser Black backed gulls only on GL04, 05, 06 in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted April 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 just to answer part of your question...Lesser Black backed gulls only on GL04, 05, 06 in England. Thanks for the reply daft question but does that mean they were taken off after 2006? Or is that a section of the licence ? Doesn't seem to be much response to this so I'm guessing folk don't bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hi, these are 3 different general licenses for different purposes.. see here http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/licences/generallicences.aspx#genlic There were some more gulls on the English ones until a year or two ago. Not sure about Scotland. If you search for say " gull" you might find a few hits as this question or similar comes up fairly often. One common theme is that it it is quite difficult to tell the difference between the different species and a debate usually develops between the two camps that believe it is justified to shoot gulls and those that don't. I don't really have the opportunity or need so can't answer directly - but hope this is better than no response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBW Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yes I shoot them for both protection of game ( through employment as gamekeeper) and protection of livestock on the farms I keeper over Have not met many folk that bother with gulls not a lot of people think they do much harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 MBW, Can you elaborate on the harm? I haven't seen any problems with them. They seem to only want the field just after they are plowed, but not planted. Nothing with the animals either. thanksrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 MBW, Can you elaborate on the harm? I haven't seen any problems with them. They seem to only want the field just after they are plowed, but not planted. Nothing with the animals either. thanks rick I guess the damage would depend on how near the coast you are? They definitely take birds eggs. However I'm unsure how you would differentiate an egg eaten by a crow vs a black back. They have a nasty beak on them! Yes I shoot them for both protection of game ( through employment as gamekeeper) and protection of livestock on the farms I keeper over Have not met many folk that bother with gulls not a lot of people think they do much harm Thanks for the reply. im surprised how few on here shoot them. I am assuming by livestock they go for lambs eyes? I know they hit gamebird nests. Hi, these are 3 different general licenses for different purposes.. see here http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/licences/generallicences.aspx#genlic There were some more gulls on the English ones until a year or two ago. Not sure about Scotland. If you search for say " gull" you might find a few hits as this question or similar comes up fairly often. One common theme is that it it is quite difficult to tell the difference between the different species and a debate usually develops between the two camps that believe it is justified to shoot gulls and those that don't. I don't really have the opportunity or need so can't answer directly - but hope this is better than no response Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBW Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Have seen them taking eggs from a pheasants nest, and when I worked on the hills they used to mob hen grouse as a distraction so another full could swoop in and nab her chicks in much the same way a carrion crow does...... These are things I have seen myself, however the farmer I work for believes gulls take young lambs or go at sheep that are off their feet, much like a raven I have shot them at dead lambs but I have never personally seen them at an animal that is still alive, but it is legal and to keep farmer happy I deal with them in the course of other pest/vermin control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Have seen them taking eggs from a pheasants nest, and when I worked on the hills they used to mob hen grouse as a distraction so another full could swoop in and nab her chicks in much the same way a carrion crow does...... These are things I have seen myself, however the farmer I work for believes gulls take young lambs or go at sheep that are off their feet, much like a raven I have shot them at dead lambs but I have never personally seen them at an animal that is still alive, but it is legal and to keep farmer happy I deal with them in the course of other pest/vermin control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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