b16jus Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Are they still made today or is it a case or just being lucky with a second hand one ? What sort of money do they go for or are there different types J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Just on top of that i know that emma custom rifles is selling DIY hornady boards. but are they legal to have on the wall since some bullets are expanding and are specific for ticket and should be kept locked away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 i would have though all were deactivated with the tip placed back in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 i would have though all were deactivated with the tip placed back in ? Oh no they are not. Anyway, there is no legal status for deactivated ammo. There is for firearms. There's a lot of deactivated ammo out there, you see it being sold at shows, fairs etc even car boot sales but there's not one word in any legislation to say whether its legal or not and what you have to do to make it legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Oh no they are not. Anyway, there is no legal status for deactivated ammo. There is for firearms. There's a lot of deactivated ammo out there, you see it being sold at shows, fairs etc even car boot sales but there's not one word in any legislation to say whether its legal or not and what you have to do to make it legal. If it isn't capable of being fired then it's not ammunition so isn't subject to control. The exception would be anything with an expanding bullet as the bullet its self is subject to control. You can collect ammunition if you are authorised to do so by your FAC. There is also an exemption to acquire types of ammunition as part of a collection for which there is no other reason in law to have and would otherwise be section 5 such as armour piercing, incendiary or explosive ammo. The ammunition collecting condition usually says something to the effect of; "...may be possessed or displayed as part of a collection", which suggests that it doesn't have to be locked away out of sight all the time. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Its also quite difficult to get a collectors certificate. you have to be a member of a recognised organisation such as ECRA or IAA. They do want to see your security and safe. However we are not talking about official ammo collectors, we are more concerned with the unofficial collectors and what constitutes "incapable of being fired". You have to always be aware of the 'easily converted' clause. Without legal guidelines it makes the owner vunerable. There is tons of this stuff being sold on sites like http://www.specialistauctions.com/ Including ammunition with expanding bullets. Almost anyone on here could put this deactivated ammo back togeather in minutes. In Germany cases have to be drilled. Edited June 20, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I've read somewhere that if an inert round is to be made with an expanding missile the base of the bullet must be drilled? I assume because that way if you try to fire it the lead core will fall out of the front of the jacket and not work? I've also heard that modern production should epoxy fill the case too, but that was something I heard rather than read in a document that I would trust. I'm 99.9% certain on the drilling bit. If I can find it I'll post it but I spend a good three hours a day reading gun stuff - it could take a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can't find the reference to drilling the bullet, but I have found this. Home office guidance to police 2002, chapter 2 page 7... v) Display Boards and decorative purposes In the absence of a Court ruling, inert cartridges and ammunition mounted on display boards are not regarded as being subject to the Acts. Similarly, inert bullets mounted on key rings or cuff links are assumed to be exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can't find the reference to drilling the bullet, but I have found this. Home office guidance to police 2002, chapter 2 page 7... v) Display Boards and decorative purposes In the absence of a Court ruling, inert cartridges and ammunition mounted on display boards are not regarded as being subject to the Acts. Similarly, inert bullets mounted on key rings or cuff links are assumed to be exempt. So if you get one of this hornady DIY bullet bords it is legal to have one regardless solid or expanding bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) So if you get one of this hornady DIY bullet bords it is legal to have one regardless solid or expanding bullet. It says in the absence of a court ruling. That means it is neither legal or illegal. It hasn't been tested but if you massively upset them they may just give it a spin to see what happens. Otherwise they are not going to bother. Mick Sheperd was the case that worried a lot of people in the gun world. He obviously upset somebody but they tried to go way beyond what the law allowed. Had he not spent a fortune defending himself he almost certainly would have gone to jail http://www.micksguns.com/ That's why my advice to everybody is to stay out of the grey areas. Is it worth the risk? Edited June 21, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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