houlsby Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) just wondering how you guys get your land to stalk on? i do have a small amount of land to stalk over but id like to gain a little more (theres a point to this.. im off doorknocking in east/north yorks next week and i dont want to be flogging a dead horse or "shown the door" !!) are you a) in a syndicate B a fc leaseholder c) a gamekeeper or other farm/estate worker d) farmer requested you thin the deer out. e) you never asked you just got "shooting permission" Edited July 20, 2013 by houlsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Be prepared to take a pocket full of money or maybe a sack full of notes if your just going un announced or as a stranger door knocking farms in the rare event there might be a scrap of land that many of your predecessors might have missed. Most farmers I know are well aware of the value of stalking as they get bombarded with requests I wish you luck though fella and you don't get anything by not trying. As to your question a/b/c/d etc I would have to be ( f ) as I am fortunate to own the land I stalk on. Edited July 20, 2013 by Double four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 to be honest bud, im more interested in HOW people have the land to stalk.. iv no issue with spending the pennies to get the stalking its the getting a foot in the door and carrying on in the right direction im wanting. rarther than paying a guided stalk. (im not saying thats a bad thing either, i just cant affrd £200 an outing!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I Know its not easy to get your foot in the door pal, if I were you I would be looking at one of the more mainline stalking forums, theres a lad from Doncaster who like you was just starting out he ended up getting his dsc1 paid for with a site bursary and has been out with several members stalking foc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 thats bigadam isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I believe double four is referring to bigadam although I'm now told the honeymoon is over and he's no longer the blue eyed boy for some reason . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes that's him iv only met him once when I sold him a deer carcass, if you know him no doubt he will tell you how he went about it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Loads,loads,loads and loads of door knocking,which resulted in loads,loads and loads of nos with a few yesses.Then,if these yesses had some of the nos on the marches,some of the nos see the good work getting done,or have problems with rabbits,foxes etc and these become yesses too,and they can build pretty quickly.Dont always look at it as stalking ground straight away,and maybe do donkey work on it first and hopefully more will come.Even if you get a no,but the folks seem decent and not anti,then ask if you can leave a number in case they change their mind.Probably the best roe ground I have I only got on 3 years after leaving my number with them and had written it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I don't think you'd want to go the same route as things appear to have gone sour for him according to what he told me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigadam Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Nothing is free trust me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 It didn't involve bending over and Vaseline did it Adam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigadam Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 That would have been cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 How come Adam ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Yeh shame it's gone sour for you bud. Im just in the process of booking on to a full weekend in October/November off a guy on the sd. Hoping to get out a few nights next week and do some serious door knocking! I'm expecting lots of no's, **** off's but I'm gunna give it a go and keep my eye in next week as I'm up in the hills above catterick with work :-) Snow monster.. Same as snowy off sd? Edited July 21, 2013 by houlsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Tis correct was unable to register on here with the same moniker. Shame really as on the wildfowling forum with similar although I don't go on much as theirs very little happening nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Ah cool. Just noticed your from Doncaster. Fancy taking on an apprentice? :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Your mate bigadam's got his name down for an interview, just need a bit more info on recent developments . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) I'll get it outta him later tonight. Rang him to see if he wanted to go bunny bashing with his new .270 sako last week but he was having none of it. :-p Edited July 21, 2013 by houlsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmonster Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Bit under gunned 270 for rabbits you ought to get a 300 rem ultra mag at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 To get stalking land is not a dark art just buy some. I've just bought 2 lease and have one already. It was not expencive and I hold the lease so it down to me who shoots on it. Over 3000 acres in the boarders have accomidation on one of the leases. So it no holly grail just some cash. When I offered some syndicate places on this site only the other week on 1100acres I'd been offered 6 members at £800. Now before anyone gets upset I was not making money out of the lease. But in the big picture a days stalking is £150, so weekend is £300 for four outings. So 3 weekends out and your membership it's paid for, any deer you shot you own. The big advantage is you can stalk all day and go when you like. Syndicate stalking it a good way if you can not find land close by. If you want any info or have a chat jut pm. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted July 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Like I say, I don't mind paying for it.. Nowts for free, it's the initial 'getting my foot in the door' without someone ripping me off or making the mistake I almost made earlier.. Buying on a whim. Also, I did pm you about that syndicate.. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Unfortunatly any syndicate is a gamble. Two of the three leases I've not seen and the other I went and walked it when it was offered. That was 9 years ago and although I saw a doe, it did not mean it had lots of deer on. So it's a good way to get on the ladder but the draw back is often when they are advertised places go quickly. I remember looking for two new members on my lease in Eskdalemuire and put an ad on the SD site had over 100 pm the firt night and over the week 250 PMs it was mad. The up side is I mave a nice small syndicate on 1200 acres and the guys all know each other and all stalk together So yes syndicates do have pros and cons. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipper Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Unfortunatly any syndicate is a gamble. Two of the three leases I've not seen and the other I went and walked it when it was offered. That was 9 years ago and although I saw a doe, it did not mean it had lots of deer on. So it's a good way to get on the ladder but the draw back is often when they are advertised places go quickly. I remember looking for two new members on my lease in Eskdalemuire and put an ad on the SD site had over 100 pm the firt night and over the week 250 PMs it was mad. The up side is I mave a nice small syndicate on 1200 acres and the guys all know each other and all stalk together So yes syndicates do have pros and cons. Andrew Syndicates definately have their Pro's and Con's. We were shooting 250-280 deer pa amongst 4 members, if it was not for a syndicate, a one man band would have struggled to keep the numbes in check. So this is a Pro. My only advice, when joining make sure everyone understands the rules of the game, and 'Ask' what happens when the lease is up for renewal. In my case, people who i thought were freinds for the 3 years, renewed the lease, minus the common courtesy of asking whether i would have liked to join. Thats the Con. 'When its comes to money, Thinkgs get funny'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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