kipper Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Hello chaps. Well I finally got my FAC application filled in and its in the post. Lets see how good/Quick the derbyshire firearms department is. I will keep you posted. I have applied for. Air rifle FAC = AAS410 xtra fac .22 will fill that slot, What do you think. whats the effective killing range on full power for rabbits. (I Know my ability to kill humainly is the limit I should stop at) but I have not used one of these guns so I was wondering what your acheivements / limits are. .22 Rim lr = ( I need your help here chaps ) I like the Idea of a multi shot. my mate has got a ruger 10/22 its a verry nice looking gun. with the laminated stock and the stainless barrel. but having said that I will be using it for shooting mostly rabbits, mabe the odd close range fox. so the nice shiny barrel wont do me any favours when out hunting. any recommendations for a .22 rim would be a great help chaps. Thank's in advance Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 well kipper ive had a standard ruger 10/22 for over 12 years now its a semi auto+sound mod and i have 2 ten shot mags and a 30 shot mag(which is great not much reloading mags its a great rabbiting gun and its as good as the day i bought it shooting wise that is loads of bumps and dunts on stock now from being rested on wing mirrors out in the old landy out on quad bikes etc with the 10/22 the seceret is to clean the sliding parts often and properly and you will have little or no jams i have never cleaned the barrel or sound mod !!!dosent need it imo i know in general bolt actions are said to be more accurete but the ruger semi auto is never far from the mark cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted January 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 thanks for the reply and advice Kirky640 What range is the ruger effective to when taking rabbits, what bullets do you use mate. Thanks again Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Well this could be interesting. I'm going to put mine in to Glocestershire tomorrow for .17hmr. Lets see who gets it first! Good luck with it buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 thanks for the reply and advice Kirky640 What range is the ruger effective to when taking rabbits, what bullets do you use mate. Thanks again Kipper range for rabbits up to 60 yards with ease whinchester subsonics if or when you get one site it in at 50 yards and then move out to 70 /80 yards and learn the drop of the bullet as a .22 lr dose not shoot straight it arcs slightly, well mine dose a friend of mine shot some tracers throught a .22 once and it scared him a bit seeing the bullet flight that was taken lots of practice at targets is the way to do it getting to know your gun kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Am i to belive that an FEO would be more inclined to give someone fox control on there ticket on a .17hmr rather than a .22lr? Being that i thought the .17hmr round was more explosive on impact.. I havnt done much reading up on the .22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I didnt think that a .22lr was effective enough for a fox? you hook has the barb broken off kirky :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I didnt think that a .22lr was effective enough for a fox? you hook has the barb broken off kirky :o Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I didnt think that a .22lr was effective enough for a fox? you hook has the barb broken off kirky :o Huh its been done to death .22lr for fox is it ok or not just look it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taffygun Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Well this could be interesting. I'm going to put mine in to Glocestershire tomorrow for .17hmr. Lets see who gets it first! Good luck with it buddy And mine went in Monday....i'm not putting money in this race though .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I didnt think that a .22lr was effective enough for a fox? you hook has the barb broken off kirky :o Huh its been done to death .22lr for fox is it ok or not just look it up Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 hi kipper thanks for the winchester select reply .i have the s400 xtra older model 3 now in june.i have killed maggies at 80 metres + belled with my range finder.at 111 metres i can drop pellets into a coke tin no prob.i found the gun slightly noisy so i fitted a theoben silencer you can see a pic under 1st picture if you look back through the pics forum.the gun is as accurate as any theoben at half the money folk talk about a power curve i don t have one i count my shots and refill.try 5.52 air arms fields these work best in mine bis mags ok but slightly loopy due to weight look bottom of aa tins size should be on them.throw a mil dot scope on that will give you aim points out to 70.i regularly kill at 60 metres no prob.in 3 years i only had a faulty pressure gauge and aa were helpful i fixed it myself.if yours is the variable power i would keep it screwed flat open so you will know your trajectory.hope this has been helpful any questions just shout. cheers rab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonrms Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I personally would put down (.22) do not include .22lr. or semi etc.. if you put down .22 than you can get a bolt action or a semi I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Just a quick question what sort of velocity do those extra FAC air rifles produce (or energy but primarily velocity) I read an article in sporting shooter about day states new gun thats 80lbs/ft and was clocking 900+ fps with 40gr bullets which aint getting far off a .22lr but why bother when a .22rf can do it for a third of the price and same noise but thats another story i know guys like their airguns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted January 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Thanks for all the replies chaps. Just wondered. How do you set your rim up, What do you use as a target.? do you just use normal air rifle paper targets. (with a suitable back stop obviously) Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 i think the s400 .22 at 30+ft lbs has a muzzle velocity over 1000 ft sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Nooooo not another 10/22 Get yourself a bolt action. Better accuracy, far better reliability.. no sodding jam right when you have a bolting bunny in your sights... I could say more. But yes its each to their own, trial and error. If you want to take fox with your .22, this can be a bit of a grey area, so dont advertise it if you dont have 'Fox' on your ticket. I take fox with the .22 when I have a good opertunity. Its a small light bullet, so dont take any chances with it. You MUST use expanding ammunition for fox. This is a good round for foxes up to around 55yards tops. You can do further, buts its taken chances.. and in shooting, we cant take chances. Only take a long shot when you have the confidence for lots of practice. For Rimfires have have seen such a wide range of glass used. From red dots, open sights, hi-mag scopes, night vision, etc.. choose something that you are comfortable with, not what everyone tells you to do. Everyones eyes are different, what works for some, may be a real pain for others.. A good airgun scope is usually suitable for a rimfire, providing it is is Parallax adjustable. A fiream scope for a rimfire is usually far to expensive. For zeroing, get yourself plenty of targets, and simply plink away untill your gun is set.. then plink some more. Theres no such thing as to much practice afterall.. For targets I use old CD's, try to shoot through the hole evertime at 40-50-60 yards and up each time, using different shooting positions. I also use golf balls push firmly into the back stop (big muddy bank). For paper targets I use anything with a clear visible aim point. Even a felt tip pen is fine on clear paper.. airgun targets are fine, but dont use complicated competition targets with scoring marks.. to shoot straight, you need to concentrate on one point, rather then all the numbers and shapes areound it. I find I get much better groups on small simple targets. Hi-vis targets are very usefull for dusk/dawn shooting. I always zero my gun before I hunt. Even if its just one shot.. so this is usefull for a 5am misty summers morning. Congrats on the FAC! have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Nooooo not another 10/22 Get yourself a bolt action. Better accuracy, far better reliability.. no sodding jam right piffal hunter only people are to blame for the 10/22 jaming by not cleaning and using the right amo for the gun yes bolt action is great, not, three rabbits shot and your still pulling the bolt back as you said there is to sides to every coin mate cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Having been brought up with semi's I got pretty put off with them jamming but then again I am a control freak. I hate tools that dont work properly.. its almost like a phobia I have to be able to have 100% confidence in order to enjoy it.. but if it works for some people and they enjoy it, thats all that matters in the end Round my place I dont have the luxury of seeing so many bunnies that I could shoot 2 in 3 seconds. Im usually lucky if I get two rabbits in a whole days hunting so choosing a gun that suits your shooting style and type, is also just as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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