sixhills 69 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thanks Kent I will follow your advice on loading and that's the type of advice I was looking for it will be I think the perfect tool to do what I need I've just measured the max safe distance to shoot on the land I'm looking at and all comes in at under 200 yards max range is 230 yards but it will depend on conditions. Butch thank you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 200 yards plus in my camp means 200 yards plus maybe a bit more so let's stop being stupi about this if you have nothing to say which is helpful go and do something more interesting like learn to shoot Noted. I was actually trying to be helpful. It was well meant advice which you don't actually have to take but certainly accepting it in the spirit it was intended is the norm. I hope that you find your ideal load and enjoy shooting your Hornet as much as I do mine. I will just finally add that the first thing to learn about shooting is to accept your limits, and secondly, courtesy. You might have got a handle on the first but the second still leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Noted. I was actually trying to be helpful. It was well meant advice which you don't actually have to take but certainly accepting it in the spirit it was intended is the norm. I hope that you find your ideal load and enjoy shooting your Hornet as much as I do mine. I will just finally add that the first thing to learn about shooting is to accept your limits, and secondly, courtesy. You might have got a handle on the first but the second still leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry if my manner offends but I asked a simple question not for a lesson on how to shoot I give courtesy to those that have earned it in my books there is to many people on here that think they no everything. As you sir have the knowledge as you own a hornet and use I will say thank you for the information and please except my apologies and I will take on board what you have said. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sorry if my manner offends but I asked a simple question not for a lesson on how to shoot I give courtesy to those that have earned it in my books there is to many people on here that think they no everything. As you sir have the knowledge as you own a hornet and use I will say thank you for the information and please except my apologies and I will take on board what you have said. Thanks again Apology accepted. If you want to learn to shoot, then being a Range Warden (civilian) on the Royal Marines Rifle Association home range is not a bad move. However, now at my age (70) with a ticker that beats even more irregularly than a cheap Seiko, one is forced to curtail one's activities. OK, I can still use the HMR out to 150 on the small stuff, but I now only use the Hornet on fox to 200 max even though it is capable well beyond that. For this I prefer a 50gr SPSX. No problem though as this is suited to our smaller Devon fields. Before it all went pear shaped and having 2 Hornets, one was a single shot - the one I kept - things were a little different. With regard to the final line in your Post #13, and whereas it doesn't suit everyone, if you don't envisage a high rate of fire, then either having a, or utilising a normal mag' fed rifle as a, single shot, opens up an all new ball game. A 40gr V Max, or, if it will stabilise, the Nosler equivalent (Nosler themselves indicate the possible need for a 1 in 14 twist which are not easy to come by as compared to the standard 1 in 16) would meet and even exceed your needs in my experience. At the very least, it's worth a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thanks for the advice I did my 12 years in the Royal Artillery I've done range officer duty and no thanks seen some right muppets . I have a CZ 527 eyed up which I believe is 1 in 16 twist. The only reason i started this thread was I had read that some dies are not that good for the hornet. But have learnt a lot more than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I thought all post 90's Hornets were 1/14" twists! My BRNO and Savage were, the 50's BSA was 1/16". The previous two stabilised 50 grn bullets fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I thought all post 90's Hornets were 1/14" twists! My BRNO and Savage were, the 50's BSA was 1/16". The previous two stabilised 50 grn bullets fine! Now I am puzzled! http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american-22-hornet-5-rd-mag-1-rings-incl/ Sure mine was tighter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok....the Savage did... http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/25WVCamo/ I had a BRNO years ago, before the net. I measured it myself and for years swore it was a 14" twist, now I doubt that ! However it shot 50 grn Speer TNT just fine! Hey ho.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok....the Savage did... http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/25WVCamo/ I had a BRNO years ago, before the net. I measured it myself and for years swore it was a 14" twist, now I doubt that ! However it shot 50 grn Speer TNT just fine! Hey ho.... S&B 45 grain fmj went well for a target type round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok....the Savage did... http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/25WVCamo/ I had a BRNO years ago, before the net. I measured it myself and for years swore it was a 14" twist, now I doubt that ! However it shot 50 grn Speer TNT just fine! Hey ho.... Off the cuff the only other one I can think of is the Ruger (I have the No 1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Off the cuff the only other one I can think of is the Ruger (I have the No 1). I know you have a #1 and are quite jealous of that fact lol :-) U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Thanks for the advice I did my 12 years in the Royal Artillery I've done range officer duty and no thanks seen some right muppets . I have a CZ 527 eyed up which I believe is 1 in 16 twist. The only reason i started this thread was I had read that some dies are not that good for the hornet. But have learnt a lot more than I expected. I use the CZ and LE Wilson Benchrest had dies RWS brass. Forget the twist rates what I can tell you is they will stabilise hornet bullets up to 45 grains. IMO the trick is concentricity and the way CZ chamber their guns during barrel production is a big plus in the Hornet. I wasn't saying anything about the forces ability with a rifle out of respect for what the guys actually do for us, my late cousin was a marine he was many great things but no better than average with a rifle and to be fair didn't need to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I totally agree most service personal are average with a firearm they don't need to beg treat as they are not made for accuracy and when your send rounds down range that's all that counts. But many a good soldier,marine,ect give the a permission firearm and they will learn and become very good. I'm no sniper as lots on here declare the are hmmm but I have been shooting since I was a kid and now I'm 45 I have to say my skills have improved since leaving the forces. But your tight our boys do a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Cz hornet = 1in 16 Ruger hornet 1 in 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I totally agree most service personal are average with a firearm they don't need to beg treat as they are not made for accuracy and when your send rounds down range that's all that counts. But many a good soldier,marine,ect give the a permission firearm and they will learn and become very good. I'm no sniper as lots on here declare the are hmmm but I have been shooting since I was a kid and now I'm 45 I have to say my skills have improved since leaving the forces. But your tight our boys do a great job. I only know of two on here who have said that and I am sure at least one of those is / was. My late cousin had plenty time with rifles before he went in he was one of the worst in our family, very good soldier though and judging from the amount of girls who turned up at his funeral all claiming to be his "girlfriend" he certainly new how to use at least one shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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