Chrissmith0881 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I am looking at purchasing a new night vision scope and it has come down to these two just wondered what people's opinions are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Drone Pro 10x + an NM800IR - they're head & shoulders above all the other Digital NV on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feaks Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Do a search for the ATN X Sight, looks a like a contender to me. Available in a couple of months time i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not even in production yet. So not sure it will be available in the UK before Christmas, there's over 12,000 on back order in the US at present, I think they'll probably get priority over the UK market but could be wrong. Why dedicated? Why not an add-on. What ranges are you shooting at and what types of quarry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissmith0881 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Wanting it for foxing mainly. Never really fancied the add ons not sure why wanted to just have a dedicated night rifle job done. Probably don't take much over 200 - 250 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feaks Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The X Sight is due in this October at certain outlets but as with most new products could end up nearer October '15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Drone pro got one myself fully recommended, it is a great bit of kit, light in weight, ergonomically designed and really is head and shoulders above the competition some pics off NV http://www.####.com/viewtopic.php?t=4321 as easy at home at 5x in the barn, at the doubler then its a x10 beast for large calibre best £1600 I have ever spent on night vision and it will last me for years have a weaver rail on my rifle holds a leupy then once its dark I swop for the drone takes seconds some pics off NV through the viewer it is so clear its like looking at hd tv I have managed to get a hold of these photos from a drone pro 5x viewer and what quality picture can be seen. its amazing-no noise-no interference absolutely superb no comparison to anything availablephotos taken with a point and shoot camera through the viewer on a 5x with the camera and unit not focused in the darkusing a T20 illuminator they are clearer than some units video outputs and Apple Plants Seat Clock taken indoors with light from a hallway some showing light leval adjustment hi all went to the lakes for a couple of days so took some photos with the drone pro camera small point able thing cost £30 so not the best note the distance to the first fence and the fence posts behind the first fence is 110 metres from were I was taking the pictures the second fence is 190this first picture is daylight The next photos are daylight showing the levels from 8-1 there are a couple missing which I had glare on my lens by not having the camera on the drone note the fence and the fence posts behind great clarity taken in overcast conditionslevel 8level 7level 6level 5level 2level 1 Here is a picture showing some Para gliders the mountain top is over 2 miles from were I took the photothis was at level 2 I then waited until dark and took some night time photos here we have the fence and posts of above in the lake note I zoomed my camera a little bit so the fencing looks bigger as it is not showing all of the fence also it looks bigger due to the reflectionit was really black dark no light from anywhere I was using a t20 as an illuminator, the drone has to have an illuminator in order to work in the dark this one I adjusted darker by one level see how the reflection is brighter on the near fence above and the fence posts at the rear The next photos were photographed holding unit in bare hand standing so photos are not as good as what i saw looking through the eyepiece Rabbit at 70 high setting Rabbit at 70 low setting Ducks at 40+ (never realised ducks are luminous) not focused 2 geese thease were in middle of lake 300+ metres again not focused but you can make them out Rabbits at 40 not focused and shakes the ATN X Sight will be better than a photon which I found to be very poor that is why I bought the drone got a photon looked through it sold it the atn but will not be in the class of the drone pro, To start withit does not have the same screen rear viewer screen so straight away its failed by a country mile. to finish the Drone Pro is superb - however it does not have GPS, a compass and an altitude meter and the other things the ATN has !!!!!! Edited August 24, 2014 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) the ATN X Sight will be better than a photon which I found to be very poor the atn but will not be in the class of the drone pro, To start withit does not have the same screen rear viewer screen so straight away its failed by a country mile. Do you work for ATN? As nobody has got their hands on a finished production model yet I'm not too sure how you can make these claims? Yes, the Drone is good, no disputing that, but I think saying the X-Sight will be only slightly better than the Photon is slightly misleading to say the least - it's going to be a case of wait and see I'm afraid. Near eye display resolution for Drone Pro - 752 x 582 Near eye display resolution for X-Sight - 800 x 600 Looks about the same to me? Near eye display for Photon - 300 x 225 Edited August 24, 2014 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Do you work for ATN? As nobody has got their hands on a finished production model yet I'm not too sure how you can make these claims? Yes, the Drone is good, no disputing that, but I think saying the X-Sight will be only slightly better than the Photon is slightly misleading to say the least - it's going to be a case of wait and see I'm afraid. Near eye display resolution for Drone Pro - 752 x 582 Near eye display resolution for X-Sight - 800 x 600 Looks about the same to me? Near eye display for Photon - 300 x 225 the x sight raises too many questions -it seems to be to gimmicky 1- It measures velocity? Of what? The scope through GPS? Something on screen? the bullet-- I think not 2- Image Stabilizing? Does this mean I can shake the rifle/scope but the crosshairs don't move and it hits the target, I think not 3. Its got a gyroscope, does this keep the x and y axis stable,So my gun is always perfectly upright or does it stabalise the crosshair 4. digital zoom-never as good as optical 3. price $650 that's less than £550 the OLED display in the drone pro costs over £300 on its own My Personal view is that the X-Sight will have a place somewhere between the Photon and the drone pro but it will be no-where as good as the drone if I am proved wrong great then the buying public will have a bargain and it will cause the calapse of the night view industry due to the price and if it is better I will smash my drone pro and buy one however I am sure my drone pro is very safe Edited August 25, 2014 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 On points 1- 3 [sic], we will all have to wait and see. Some of it might be useful, some less so, at the moment it's all just speculation. Who told you that the drone pro screen was £300? Or is that the price that you would have to pay if you wanted to buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) On points 1- 3 [sic], we will all have to wait and see. Some of it might be useful, some less so, at the moment it's all just speculation. Who told you that the drone pro screen was £300? Or is that the price that you would have to pay if you wanted to buy one? May have got it wrong its actually $400 so its over £300 and that came from Carl Moore the uk inporter/seller very nice bloke to deal with its who I bought mine off thread 6 and 7 on this page (7 is carl ) its because its a full size OLED it costs so much, lesser manufactures use smaller micro items -that will be the pulsar units which have the same pizels but not the clarity the one used in the photon is about 4mm in size and magnified 10 fold, that's why it is covered in lines like washing lines here is the thread saying cost http://www.####.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3834 so like I say I can not see the X-Sight being much cop as the display in the drone costs as much as the whole unit will be to make. as profit must be made by the manufacturer and the seller and £250 is not much margin, So as I say it will have a place , but that will probably be between the photon and a long way short of the drone as the cost is too restrictive Edited August 25, 2014 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissmith0881 Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 This has gone right off my original post and not really much help I asked on people's opinions on the drone pro vs pulsar n750a so I few reply's on that would be much appreciated as the x sight is not even out yet and not really what I was looking at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) This has gone right off my original post and not really much help I asked on people's opinions on the drone pro vs pulsar n750a Drone pro much better unit no scrimping on design (full size OLED screen lesser manufactures use smaller micro items -that will be the pulsar units) should be a few years before it is bettered cant say other than that put the same question on the uk nigt vision site were you will get some of the guys who spend the price of a small car on some units will give you the same answer -- there is NO better digital night vision scope that is better or available at this time or in the near future Edited August 25, 2014 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 See post 2 Chris - I have owned & used both - the Drone 10x really is in a different league if you're considering purchasing 1 - just do it, if you're genuinely looking for a top Digital NV scope that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah, buy a Drone pro. I can't be bothered to keep batting back idle unfounded gossip and speculation on the specs of a unit that hasn't been released yet either. The Drone is better than the N750. Edited August 25, 2014 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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