Cyrus1988 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I'm just getting into some shotgun cartridge reloading, got a Lee Load All II lined up, a set of scales and just finished reading Lyman's Shotshell Reloading Handbook 5th edition. Obviously the Lyman's book features a huge amount of American powders, primers, wads, etc. so I'm having difficulty trying to find recipes that list components that are available here in the U.K. I was hoping that some of the more experienced loaders on PW could point me in the right direction in finding some suitable recipes. What I'm looking for is a 12 gauge 28gram #7/8 for clays and a 12 gauge 32gram #5 for corvids. As I'm just starting out I thought it would be easier to stick to plastic wads, the hulls that I have are Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32gram #6 Fibre Wads. Sorry if any of this doesn't make sense, I'm just starting out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Just browse through this topic; about seven years. Much better than a book....more up to date! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Just browse through this topic; about seven years. Much better than a book....more up to date! Yeah I've just been looking through now and found quite a few recipes from Clay & Game. Are their recipes pretty reliable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Here is a hint. Get a recipe first. Buy the exact components and then reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I did the same as you about 2 years ago got the loader, scales etc and Lyman book read it cover to cover then found I could not find some of the components. Like others have said Clay & Game have recipes that cover what you want and they sell the components. If you search on here for one of my early posts you will fine a recipe for a 24 gram clay load using Vectan AS powder, that's the one I started with and I think it would suit your needs. If you can't find the post just PM me I will send it to you. Also have 32/34 gram recipes if you need them. The Lyman book is a good reference and full of good advice, so in my opinion you have made a good start. Good luck and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I did the same as you about 2 years ago got the loader, scales etc and Lyman book read it cover to cover then found I could not find some of the components. Like others have said Clay & Game have recipes that cover what you want and they sell the components. If you search on here for one of my early posts you will fine a recipe for a 24 gram clay load using Vectan AS powder, that's the one I started with and I think it would suit your needs. If you can't find the post just PM me I will send it to you. Also have 32/34 gram recipes if you need them. The Lyman book is a good reference and full of good advice, so in my opinion you have made a good start. Good luck and enjoy. Thanks very much for the information, I'll send you a PM the now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I have another query, my shotgun has been proofed to 3.25 tons/square inch. That equates to about 448 bar. Does that mean I can only use recipes that do not exceed that pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 448 is too low! you won't be able to shoot at all!! Modern guns should be proofed to 1300 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 448 is too low! you won't be able to shoot at all!! Modern guns should be proofed to 1300 bar There are LONG tons and SHORT tonnes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 There are LONG tons and SHORT tonnes. Short tonnes = 448 bar Long tonnes = 502 bar Another member has explained to me that it's not a straight mathematical conversion from tonnes per square inch to the CIP pressure. There's a lot more to this than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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