FAC air rifles

[naddan28]

Uprating a rifles power will not make it more accurate will it?

The flatter trajectory will make range finding less of an obstacle and mean you will have more chance of consistently hitting the kill zone, but that is down to"Human error" not the gun itself!

snakebite, imagine throwing a beachball up in the air gently - it blows everywhere!

Now try a throwing a tennis ball - its hardly affected by the wind!

 

The reason being the tennis ball is smaller, heavier and travelling a lot faster. Even if you throw a tennis ball gently and then throw it hard you will notice the difference. Its due to the increased velocity of the object meaning winds are less likely to have an effect.

[SNAKEBITE]

The only thing stopping my AAS410 putting pellet on pellet at the quoted 40yds is me!

How can I improve on that?

 

Increasing the rifles output will increase your overall accuracy at longer distances. The pellet will be less affected by the 'elements' at the greater speeds it will be travelling at.

 

That I can agree with, but we are talking airguns here and the influential elements involved are less involved with live rounds out to 200yds.

EDITED TO ADD.........

The faster "lock time" (correct expression?) means that any influence e.g. the wind has more chance to affect the slower pellet. This is an outside influence and does not mean it is any less accurate than a faster pellet.

 

snakebite, imagine throwing a beachball up in the air gently - it blows everywhere!

Now try a throwing a tennis ball - its hardly affected by the wind!

 

The reason being the tennis ball is smaller, heavier and travelling a lot faster. Even if you throw a tennis ball gently and then throw it hard you will notice the difference. Its due to the increased velocity of the object meaning winds are less likely to have an effect.

 

Nice analogy but completly irrelevant due to the fact that the "balls" involved are identical, both being .22 pellets

 

However I can agree that any outside influnce, such as the wind will affect the faster pellet less due to the less time it has to influence the pellet from muzzle to target.

[Axe]

Your digging your own hole Snakebite, the 'balls' i.e. pellets are not the same. Generally an FAC airgunner would use a heavier pellet than one using a legal limit rifle.

 

And why must you keep referring to 'live' rounds in the airgun section? And if you are referring to a .17HMR at 200 yards, then again you are wrong. The elements i.e. wind, greatly effect the little 17 grain bullet.

[naddan28]

The only thing stopping my AAS410 putting pellet on pellet at the quoted 40yds is me!

How can I improve on that?

 

Increasing the rifles output will increase your overall accuracy at longer distances. The pellet will be less affected by the 'elements' at the greater speeds it will be travelling at.

 

That I can agree with, but we are talking airguns here and the influential elements involved are less involved with live rounds out to 200yds.

EDITED TO ADD.........

The faster "lock time" (correct expression?) means that any influence e.g. the wind has more chance to affect the slower pellet. This is an outside influence and does not mean it is any less accurate than a faster pellet.

 

snakebite, imagine throwing a beachball up in the air gently - it blows everywhere!

Now try a throwing a tennis ball - its hardly affected by the wind!

 

The reason being the tennis ball is smaller, heavier and travelling a lot faster. Even if you throw a tennis ball gently and then throw it hard you will notice the difference. Its due to the increased velocity of the object meaning winds are less likely to have an effect.

 

Nice analogy but completly irrelevant due to the fact that the "balls" involved are identical, both being .22 pellets

 

However I can agree that any outside influnce, such as the wind will affect the faster pellet less due to the less time it has to influence the pellet from muzzle to target.

 

Assuming your are using the same cal, also that is why I said that it works the same for a tennis ball thrown slow compared to fast. The difference is its harder to observe, in comparision to a beach ball. Although the wind, is an outside parameter it effects accuracy regardless. Thats why we attempt to make the pellet faster & heavier in order to overcome the wind effects on accuracy.

 

Unless you are defining accuracy as the dispatch of an air rifle in a vacumn with no air resitance etc then velocity makes a difference. I personally define accuracy as a continual shot string with a small standard devaition after discharging an air rifle in normal conditions that it would be reasonably expected to be discharged.

[SNAKEBITE]

Your digging your own hole Snakebite, the 'balls' i.e. pellets are not the same. Generally an FAC airgunner would use a heavier pellet than one using a legal limit rifle.

 

And why must you keep referring to 'live' rounds in the airgun section? And if you are referring to a .17HMR at 200 yards, then again you are wrong. The elements i.e. wind, greatly effect the little 17 grain bullet.

 

I was trying to draw a comparison between two pellets that are............

 

I can see that I'm onto a loser here after all I am having a job explaining what I mean. I am clear in my head what I mean but I am having a job explaining it in the correct technical terms. After all I am not a ballistic expert, nor have I spent hours reading articles on the internet and trying to make out I am a ballistic expert.

[deadeye ive]

Now Now Girls

 

The conception is to use a heavier pellet in .22 FAC but all you achieve is the same as in 12 ft lb or a bloody great rainbow trajectory .Experience kicks in after you miss more than before the power upgrade and you soon realise that 14 grn acupels work just as well and more to point you get a long flat trajectory .

 

The holy grail of all shooting is that yourself and your equipment operating at maximum capability regardless of calibre and power can put the cross air on target and squeeze the trigger

 

Aiming high /low using mildot is all guess work if you don't know the exact distance so let the rifle do the hard work