Franklin2890 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Thinking of getting into reloading my own shotgun cartridges so ordered the leeyman 5th edition manual which I received today after a quick glance at it, it only seems to have loads for plastic wads so my question is this is there a better manual that has fibre loads in (most of where I shoot has livestock) or is it a case of swapping the plastic for fibre wads? Any help would be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 No ! Phone John at ####.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin2890 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Thanks for the info do you know of any manuals that include fibre loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 John at F.E.S. will point you in the right direction. If you look on his website I think he is doing deals on some fibre wads at the moment. He is a very helpful chap and a mine of information. Very competitive as well. You can't simply exchange the plastic wad for fibre one as the wad height would not be right. A bit of research is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Individual current manuals provided by the powder manufacturers are essential, and besides these a worthwile addition when looking at a single manual is the lyman shotshell manual it has usefull info and well worth the money. Equaly the lyman 47th manual for rifles has a great deal of info in one place for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin2890 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Thanks for the info order some individual data sheets from clay and game as well as having the Lyman manual hopefully they can shed some light on fibre loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Shooter Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) The rule of thumb when plastic wads first appeared on the scene was to reduce the powder charge by 10% so working the other way is the same (in principle/theory) from plastic to fiber increase powder by 10%. I did this with a Chedite recipe from Lymans 5th page 128 rated at 9000psi and substituting the primer for a remington 209STS(this is all I could get at the time):- Case-------------Gamebore Velocity (Chedite) Primer------------Remington 209 STS Powder-----------Red Dot 23 grains Over powder----Nitro Card 2mm Wad---------------Fiber 24mm Shot---------------1oz No6 lead Six star crimp This comes close to 2 recipe's, one listed in Lymans Ideal Handbook No38 Circa 1960's & also one listed in Alcans reloading manual Circa 1960's both running at 24 grains as powder weight. I also have this for a 3/4oz load;- Case--------------Gamebore White Gold Primer------------Remington 209 STS Powder-----------Red Dot 21 grains Over Powder----Nitro Card 4mm Wad--------------Fiber 20mm + 2 X 2mm nitro cards Shot--------------3/4oz No6 lead Over shot card Six star crimp I did have quite a bit of fiber data but had a hard disk failure last year so still trying to extract it from the old disk as well as downloading it all again, it is out there but it takes a while to find, hope the above helps. Cookoff on here deals with a lot of fiber loads and is a font of information. Edited January 2, 2016 by Field Shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I would go and get dedicated data for fibre. There are same knowledgeable chaps on here. The Lyman is a real good read. I started testing more fibre, because lack of resources. I just like getting stuff together and test. I am about to receive some results from tests. In the past I have done 24g fibre,32g fibre subs,28gram subs, 21gram fibre subs (remote loading, see Graham / roughshooter), 21g fibre, and some duff steel. I have 3" 42g fibre subsonics, and some decent steel awaiting test. The Christmas period slowed stuff up. I don't know what I want to do next. I'd just like to give a shout out to Graham, he helps alot source ing components in small quants. Bouncing ideas off of him helps me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Just out of interest why are you looking at reloading? I looked in to it 1,because I can never seem to get the cartridges I'm after locally and 2. just out of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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