Daveo26 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) I've been after a steel proof semi auto for a while, But I didn't really want to spend a fortune on one, I was thinking I would get an escort or something similar, Then I heard about the franchi affinity been a cheaper alternative to a benelli with the inertia system! I handled one at the local gun shop. Erm not for me. The pistol grip is tiny in my big mits it didn't feel right at all. Then I looked at a stoeger M3000. A good bit cheaper than the affinity. Same looking system but made in Turkey. It felt right in the shoulder, and the hand. hmmmmmm. Do I really want a Turkish copy of a benelli? I did some research the gun it replaced, the M2000 wasn't very good but the yanks like the bigger M3500. I bought it. The guns got a Matt finish on every surface, that's good. It seems to mark easily, not so good but it cost £395 so who cares. First thing I notice is the receiver isn't drilled and tapped for a scope base as I'd read. It's got dovetails milled in the receiver? Second the super full extended turkey choke I'd read about is not present instead it's a flush fitting full choke. Makes no odds to me because I won't use either but there must have been some changes made? So I got a set of 3 choke, 1/4, 1/2 and full and a choke key and a set of drop shims in the box. It's obviously a budget black plastic semi auto but it actually feels good and solid. First thing was to strip and clean it as it was covered in some thing akin to landrover swivel grease but it smelt worse. I cleaned it all off and gave the action rail thing a bit of light oil. The destructions say use heavy cartridges to bed it in and it will function with 1oz trap loads. Off I went to the local shooting ground, armed with 20 46 gram alphamax, 10 gamebore mammoth steel 36 grams and 50 clay cartridges. It messed about abit with heavy loads, failing to eject. But the steel were all fine, and it fed, fired and ejected all the cheap eley trap cartridges. Not a single hiccup. It got hot quick, the barrel was too hot to touch. I was telling the fella at the shooting ground about the stoeger. He told me he'd had a lad up the day before with the same gun that did nothing but jam. Had he cleaned it? Had he broken it in as per instructions? I've just stripped and cleaned it, the barrel once clean is as good internally as any I've seen and the machining in the bolt look very good indeed. At the moment I'm seriously Impressed but it's early days, time will tell if the gun is as robust as it seems. I'm not kidding myself that I've bought a gun as good as a proper benelli but if paid hatstand money. And I like it. Cheers happy shooting Edited October 9, 2016 by Daveo26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Well 1 month of ownership Iv shot 200 clays, several geese, ducks, pheasant and woodcock with the gun. Everything from 28 gram lead 7.5s to 36 gram steel 1s And the gun has failed to feed exactly 0 times Cleaned it for the first time yesterday because it got wet through and splattered with mud. It's spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Sounds like a good deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Sounds like a good deal!I think so, don't think you can go far wrong for a budget gun.If you get a good one! It seems no one else owns one so maybe I have the only decent stoeger in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Sorry to drag up an old post, bust saw the word STOERGER and couldn't help myself 😬 Bought a stoeger air rifle, looking at it - ticked the boxes, felt great in the hand, very good sound moderator, good wood. Got it on the range- different story 😕 It had an adjustable trigger, that was next to useless 😢 Honestly - I had to apologise to the guy in the next lane for invading his space because the trigger pull was so long, 250 pellets later I went home. I did manage to work on the trigger and replace adjuster screw with a better length one, resulting in a now half useable pull length. Would I buy a stoeger shotgun? Would I **** Sold to me as a subsidiary of bretta, from what I've experienced- it's about as bretta as lidl work gloves 😂 You might kid yourself into thinking you've got a good one- deep down you know it's a lemon. I put stoeger in the same category as revo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Sorry to drag up an old post, bust saw the word STOERGER and couldn't help myself Bought a stoeger air rifle, looking at it - ticked the boxes, felt great in the hand, very good sound moderator, good wood. Got it on the range- different story It had an adjustable trigger, that was next to useless Honestly - I had to apologise to the guy in the next lane for invading his space because the trigger pull was so long, 250 pellets later I went home. I did manage to work on the trigger and replace adjuster screw with a better length one, resulting in a now half useable pull length. Would I buy a stoeger shotgun? Would I **** Sold to me as a subsidiary of bretta, from what I've experienced- it's about as bretta as lidl work gloves You might kid yourself into thinking you've got a good one- deep down you know it's a lemon. I put stoeger in the same category as revo. Well thanks for the heads up mate. I'm sure all the 1000s of Americans who use them will be throwing them in the nearest bayou, on the back of your informed opinion. I can tell you without a word of a lie this gun has fired every cartridge I've put through it without an issue. Iv accounted for plenty of ducks and geese with it so far. I bought it as a cheap rough gun, knowing it's a cheap gun and it's performed better than I expected. Did I buy a cheap Turkish shotgun because of its links with beretta??? No. I bought it because I wanted a disposable semi auto that was inertia operated. One other thing aren't stoeger branded air guns made in china? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Well thanks for the heads up mate. I'm sure all the 1000s of Americans who use them will be throwing them in the nearest bayou, on the back of your informed opinion. I can tell you without a word of a lie this gun has fired every cartridge I've put through it without an issue. Iv accounted for plenty of ducks and geese with it so far. I bought it as a cheap rough gun, knowing it's a cheap gun and it's performed better than I expected. Did I buy a cheap Turkish shotgun because of its links with beretta??? No. I bought it because I wanted a disposable semi auto that was inertia operated. One other thing aren't stoeger branded air guns made in china? Firstly- I don't give a **** what Americans do. And secondly - who buys a disposable gun? Obviously excluding hit men and the mafia 😬 Something I can confirm is - their airguns are **** and judging by the RRP's of their semis and pumps I can only form the opinion they are equally as bad. My experience of stoeger was bad, glad to hear your having a better experience than I did 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Ok so the sub £90 Chinese made, stoeger branded air rifles are not good And in your opinion the Turkish made stoeger branded shotguns are rubbish too, Because they cost £400. In a relatively similar comparison how do you think my Suzuki Grand Vitara compares to a to a 1978 intercity 125 train? The Suzuki has covered 67,000 miles if that helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 And secondly - who buys a disposable gun? Obviously excluding hit men and the mafia Me, I wanted something I wasn't worried about dropping in a pond or mud or scratching. If it's ruined in a few years I won't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 In a relatively similar comparison how do you think my Suzuki Grand Vitara compares to a to a 1978 intercity 125 train? The Suzuki has covered 67,000 miles if that helps? What year vitara? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Sorry to drag up an old post, bust saw the word STOERGER and couldn't help myself Bought a stoeger air rifle, looking at it - ticked the boxes, felt great in the hand, very good sound moderator, good wood. Got it on the range- different story It had an adjustable trigger, that was next to useless Honestly - I had to apologise to the guy in the next lane for invading his space because the trigger pull was so long, 250 pellets later I went home. I did manage to work on the trigger and replace adjuster screw with a better length one, resulting in a now half useable pull length. Would I buy a stoeger shotgun? Would I **** Sold to me as a subsidiary of bretta, from what I've experienced- it's about as bretta as lidl work gloves You might kid yourself into thinking you've got a good one- deep down you know it's a lemon. I put stoeger in the same category as revo. Stoeger has been owned by Benelli for about 15 years so i guess it must count as a Beretta subsidiary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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