Fuji Shooter Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 My sons clay coach is a registered FAD - as we are STILL waiting for a license to turn up (every Monday they say another 2 weeks) I need to get him a gun that fits as he is getting knocked about with the ones at the club. (he is only 10) Am I able to purchase a shotgun for him and have it sent to his coach the FAD who can hold onto it until the license arrives? I know its should be here in a couple more weeks but is there a limit on how long the dealer can hold onto the gun? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 no one under fifteen is allowed to own a shotgun, if his coach was to hold a gun for his use for more than 72 hours it would have to be placed on the coaches certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) Its not under his name it would be under mine as I applied for the license. Would there be an issue in putting it on his coaches cert and then transferring later? Edited September 20, 2008 by Freakmode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 no one under fifteen is allowed to own a shotgun, if his coach was to hold a gun for his use for more than 72 hours it would have to be placed on the coaches certificate. I do not believe this to be the case. Whilst you may not have an assembled shotgun on you without supervision of an over 21yr old untill 15, i believe a 15 yr old can be GIVEN a shotgun onto his ticket (you can have a shotgun cert. from any age, so why would they allow this if you have no way of getting a shotgun?. I use the word given carefully as this is one of about 5 ways of moving a shotgun/firearm between certificates and it purely indicates that no money has been exchanged (as it is of course illegal to purchase a shotgun under the age of 17.) I have actually taken advantage of the above 'loop hole' at the age of 16. So know it to be the case. Naturally enough said son would need to be taken to clay shooting with his gun by an adult, and it would need to be given to clay coach. Due to being under 15. Easy to read version of laws on BASC; http://www.basc.org.uk/content/shotgunpractice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 no one under fifteen is allowed to own a shotgun, if his coach was to hold a gun for his use for more than 72 hours it would have to be placed on the coaches certificate. I do not believe this to be the case. Whilst you may not have an assembled shotgun on you without supervision of an over 21yr old untill 15, i believe a 15 yr old can be GIVEN a shotgun onto his ticket (you can have a shotgun cert. from any age, so why would they allow this if you have no way of getting a shotgun?. I use the word given carefully as this is one of about 5 ways of moving a shotgun/firearm between certificates and it purely indicates that no money has been exchanged (as it is of course illegal to purchase a shotgun under the age of 17.) I have actually taken advantage of the above 'loop hole' at the age of 16. So know it to be the case. Naturally enough said son would need to be taken to clay shooting with his gun by an adult, and it would need to be given to clay coach. Due to being under 15. Easy to read version of laws on BASC; http://www.basc.org.uk/content/shotgunpractice If you read the first line it says NO ONE UNDER 15 MAY OWN A SHOTGUN my 15 yr old son owns a gun but he didnt buy it. but the boy in question is ten therefore his father cannot gift him a shotgun and for the coach to have it in his possesion for more than 72 hrs it would have to placed on his certificate no matter who owns it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I cant find the line it says this? fair enough if it does say it somewhere. Just curious where. (its too early to think straight) All i can find in the document referring to 15yr olds is "It is an offence for a person under the age of 15 to have with him, or her, an assembled shotgun except while under the supervision of a person of 21 or more" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I cant find the line it says this? fair enough if it does say it somewhere. Just curious where. (its too early to think straight) All i can find in the document referring to 15yr olds is "It is an offence for a person under the age of 15 to have with him, or her, an assembled shotgun except while under the supervision of a person of 21 or more" I meant in my post as you replied saying that what I said was wrong and then repeated the same information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Just to clear this up. I (his Dad) am waiting for my cert to arrive in the post (2-3 weeks) My son shoots a couple of times a week (supervised 1 on 1 lessons with his coach) As all of the club guns are too long/heavy, I need to get him one that fits (now have this part sorted) I pay the gun dealer who can ship it to his coach by whatever means the coach makes the gun a club gun etc. When my ticket arrives the coach just transfers it back to me. Does anyone see a problem with this? THanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 The only problem is you cannot buy a gun without a certificate, you could get the coach to buy it and then when you have a certificate buy it off him, or go with him to the gun shop to pay for the gun but it will have to be on his certificate so I would suggest that you draw up a simple contract so you can prove ownership as in the eyes of the law whoever payed for the gun doesnt matter, it legally belongs to whoever has it registered on their certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Yes you can have the gun sent to the RFD, then when your cert arrives, he can enter it on your cert. end of story Edited September 23, 2008 by peck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Correct - I did this yesterday Paid the dealer yesterday and TNT delivered sons said semi auto to the RFD today. Happy days Will be using the same way to order one of those new break apart Browning semi autos too Edited September 23, 2008 by Freakmode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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