Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 After the dissapointtment of Boxing day the main race of the day on Sat at Sandown is the Tolworth Hurdle. I have not had a bet since Boxing day but will be making an investment on Sat so I can watch the race on Channel 4 at 2.35 It is a very competitive and evenly matched field and you could easily make a case for any of the runners. I have won money on both Marcel and Phar Bleu earlier in the year and Marcel will I suspect be a very warm favourite for the race along with the Irish raider. Wild Passion (Those Bloody Irish keep coming over here and taking all our money home, still they need it. It cant be much fun eating spuds all the time ) Two horses which I find of great interest are Its Just Harry which is trained by C. Egerton. It is a very big step up in class for this Horse but it is interestng that A.P McCoy has chosen this relative novice in favour of Phar Bleu whom he has won on twice this season including previously at Chepstow in a Grade 1 Hurdle. Its just Harry would be worth a small eachway investment. The other horse which I have been told has been working very well at Ditcheat is Made in Montot. It has not run in this Country and last ran in France in May when it stuffed Marcel out of sight. This is a very interesting runner indeed as it has been pitched in to the Fire big time. I would not have any concerns about its fitness at all as the trainer is amongst the best in the land. Good luck to you if you do have a bet. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Ive never betted on the horses mate, just on rugby games I have an account with ladbrokes, what sort of money should I put on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Come on Mike, get off the fence. You have just mentioned five horses you fancy, in a nine horse race. I need specific information, I know nothing about horses. Millomite, if you have to ask that question, the answer is "none". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I need to make some money lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 FM, Am I right in thinking that the bulk of your fancy is for Made in Montot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Come on Mike, get off the fence. You have just mentioned five horses you fancy, in a nine horse race. I need specific information, I know nothing about horses. Millomite, if you have to ask that question, the answer is "none". Cranfield... I was just trying to set the scene.. Getting off the Fence my bet will be Its Just Harry £5.00ew. Millomite of you want to back the rugby stick a Fiver on Gloucester in Ulster tonight. They will be well up for the game particularly after losing to Leicester at Kingsholm last Sunday ( I was there unfortunately) Or do you not follow proper Rugby ?? FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Thats big girls rugby that. No on the racing though, i dont understand what each way etc is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Each way is a win bet and aplace bet so £2.00 each way would be £4.00 total Say you put £2.00 ew at 20/1 and it won your return would be... £2.00 x 20 =£40 plus your stake returned = £42.00 Plus the Place portion as it was in the first three = £2.00 x 20 x .25 (1/4 of the odds for a place) = £10.00 plus your stake of £2.00 = £12.00 This would be reduced to 1/5th of the odds a place in certain circumstances or in handicaps with 16 runners and over 4 places are normally paid. So if your horse wins at 20/1 you should receive win and place money totalling about £54.00 If placed ( ie 2nd or third or in some cases 4th )only £12.00 This is of course subject to prices took early. If you place a bet at SP which is Starting Price and there were withdrawals before the tape there might be a relative deduction in the pound under rule 4 for horses not under orders being backed before a new market could be formed... But we wont go into all that at the moment it can be very complex for a novice FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Its sounds it. So if i had like a tenner to put on, what would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 FM, Am I right in thinking that the bulk of your fancy is for Made in Montot? Yes. But I shall put my money on Its Just harry as its price will be better value. As I type I have just received a call from a friend In the Know advising a small wager on Chivalry in the following Ladbroke Hurdle. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Its sounds it. So if i had like a tenner to put on, what would you recommend? I would reccomend £2.50 each way on Its Just Harry in the 2.35 Sandown and £2.50 each way on Chivalry in the 3.10 Sandown. Good luck. Ps... Henry Paul told me that RL was Little Girls Rugby FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Oh we'll have less of that!!!! Him and Robinson awesome!!!! Rugger can offer more money, thats the thing. Its a cowards game union, all that stampling and trampling - poofters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I actually played RL at Bradford Oval in the late 70,s It was a freindly game against Keighley and the Keighley team were short so me and a friend up there for the Stock car racing were volunteered as we both played Union at the time for a amateur side in Glos. It was very much an eye opener as One of the Opposition players kept grabbing my scrotum in the tackle and blowing me kisses. I later heard he was in fact from Cumbria... I dont think he had tasted Gloucestershire brawn before and when he woke up later that afternoon with a severe headache anal sex was probably the last thing on his mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 HAHA I cant actually find that race on ladbrokes mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 It will be there in tomorrows rags mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Right, so you cant place bets before hand online then? Or do you do it all through the bookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 You should be able to do it online. You are looking for the Tolworth Hurdle and The Ladbroke Hurdle. 2. 35 and 3.10 at Sandown tomorrow FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I hope some of you had a bit EW on Its just Harry It ran a very good race and its a pity it was tipped up so much on the Morning Line as it was then backed steadily all morning. I did manage to get a bit of 12 ew last night. Chivalry was very unlucky not to get a place in the 3.10. If you watched the race you will have seen that it was in 5th and holding when very badly hampered by the faller at the second last. It wouldnt have won the race but I am convinced it would have finished in the first four. I have been told that this horse is well thought of and will win again this year. I will keep you posted when it runs again. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I was a bit late getting to the Bookies Friday evening (couldn't go Sat, out all day)and I left the piece of paper at home with the horses names on. I looked at the runners for Sandown and I could only recognise "Its Just Harry", so instead of spreading my money about, I bet £10 ew. I believe the starting price was about 6/1. Not too shabby then........ thanks Mike and thanks amnesia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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