Chard Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Ah, 36g 8's the ammunition of choice for the discerning ZZ shooter. The strange thing is you don't see many ZZs in Cheshire, or Greater Manchester either, except of course at Chester Zoo! I'll get me coat. I'm sure I read you can use them for FITASC as well :unsure: Don't understand why they're OK for FITASC and not for English Sporting. Admittedly totally unnecessary for 99% of targets, but now and again they would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm sure I read you can use them for FITASC as well :unsure: Don't understand why they're OK for FITASC and not for English Sporting. Admittedly totally unnecessary for 99% of targets, but now and again they would be useful. You could up until a few years ago Chard but even they have reduced the permitted load down to 28g. This decision went down quite well with me cos, as I've got older, 36g shells hurt my shoulder like hell. Regards Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You could up until a few years ago Chard but even they have reduced the permitted load down to 28g. This decision went down quite well with me cos, as I've got older, 36g shells hurt my shoulder like hell. Regards Mr Potter So, in an attempt to learn something from this ..... If I can hit a very high, distant, fast clay with a 36g cartridge, but miss with a 28g, is it safe to assume that the 36g shot is getting there quicker? :unsure: So I would need to give it more lead with a 28g? Must need a ******* lot of lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 So, in an attempt to learn something from this ..... If I can hit a very high, distant, fast clay with a 36g cartridge, but miss with a 28g, is it safe to assume that the 36g shot is getting there quicker? So I would need to give it more lead with a 28g? Must need a ******* lot of lead Don't think it works like that Chard, the difference in required lead between the fastest and the slowest of carts is negligible and for some reason lighter loads are usually faster than heavier ones (not always the case though). Probably the reason you killed the bird with the 36g load is pattern density, there are 450 no.8 pellets in a 28g shell and 568 in a 36g, those extra pellets will fill the gaps in the pattern at extreme range and could hit a clay that would have got through the gaps in the lighter load. Some will then tell you that no.8 shot is too light for long distance, 40+ yards, clays and you should use a minimum of 7's at that distance and of course there are even less of them in the pattern. Only a couple of months ago I saw a 60 yard bird killed well at a FITASC shoot with Hull Comp X 21g 7.5's and I used to regularly see 45 yard crossers killed with Winchester 9's (a cracking shell that disappeared from the market a good while ago). My personal view is that for sporting shoots you should find a cartridge that both you and your wallet like, in either 8's (my choice) or 7.5's and stick with them for everything irrespective of how near, how far, is it showing it's belly or is it just an edge. The worst performing shell is probably better than the best shooter. Don't even get me started on the subject of chokes!!! Regards Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 So, in an attempt to learn something from this ..... If I can hit a very high, distant, fast clay with a 36g cartridge, but miss with a 28g, is it safe to assume that the 36g shot is getting there quicker? So I would need to give it more lead with a 28g? Must need a ******* lot of lead It was my luck rubbed off on you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 It was my luck rubbed off on you mate A bit of your cheek more like. Interesting stuff I'll do a bit of experimenting with tight chokes and legal cartridges Thanks for the input Mr Potter and thanks Magman for showing me how to cheat at sporting clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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