darren m Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i,m thinking of getting a ESS pup to train up for beating , picking up , rough shooting , i have no experience of spaniels , but i have trained labs before. question is for a first springer which sex would you recommed and why ?? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Personal preference, one's as bad as the other from a training/personality point of view. Do you have other dogs to work? I have a bitch but if I was having another and only had one dog I would have a dog, as a bitch being in heat may coincide with the shooting season. WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmagpie Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have a springer bitch, she is 2 1/2 yrs old, I had another one before her. Personally I've never had a problem with either of them coming into heat during the shooting season, but then that would depend alot on when they were born too. I personally prefer bitches in general as they tend to be more loyal. A word of warning about springers though!!!! They can be a bit wild!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 A word of warning about springers though!!!! They can be a bit wild!!! And for that statement sir I congratulate you on the understatement of the century Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I have an ESS dog and, whilst I love him to bits, he does tend to get a little excited round the ladeeeez. I dread to think what would would happen if he got a scent of bitch on heat. I think it would make his year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Coming into heat is the only negative I think. I asked an old friend the same thing before I bought my cocker bitch. He said dog all the way but that they can be very head strong. I've been out with him a lot recently and although his dogs are well trained and he gets good feednack from others in the field, he is constantly keeping on top of them. He couldn't walk 100 yards without speaking to them. And trust me when I say they are trained, just extemely head strong. Bitch James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillaroo Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Over the years I have had both and there isn't much between them. I've had bitches that are head strong and dogs that are very timid. I guess you takes your choice when you see the litter? The coming into season shouldn't be a concern unless like some idiots you decide to take an on-heat bitch out beating with a load of dogs - has happened to me once this season and I may as well put the dogs back in the car as the chance of a sh@g takes over! Well they say dogs are like their owners. Gillaroo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallarben Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 dont think personaly there is much difference other than the ovious i run both dogs and bitches dont find eather harder than the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 cheers lads - i,m leaning more to the bitch i think , been advised that they may be easier and less head strong to train. i,ve trained 2 labs 1 bitch 1 dog , no probs with them , but then thats labs i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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