jef Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Can anyone offer any recent comments on CZ 527 American in .223 (21" barrel and waiting to hear of twist). I've had a few 452's which speak for themselves James Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) Can anyone offer any recent comments on CZ 527 American in .223 (21" barrel and waiting to hear of twist). I've had a few 452's which speak for themselves James Thanks I can't comment on recent CZ527s as mine's over 11 years old. But for what they are worth here are some thoughts on my rifle. It's a nice gun, my favourite centrefire. It's a bit rough round the edges, and the modern ones seem better built. Despite that it's accurate and easy to shoot. Mostly I use it on the range but recently have taken it after roe in Scotland - in the past couple of years I've used it to shoot 4, all with one shot and at ranges between 35 yards and 160 yards. The action is a gem, scaled down to the .222/.223 range of cartridges. This means that the gun is light, and easy to carry. I've never measured the twist but would put money on it being 1 in 12", and it shoots 55gr bullets well - either Sierra Gameking or Nosler Ballistic Tip (most accurate). The barrel is just under 24" (600 mm), and the stock is the traditional central European type which means that I have to keep my head fairly upright when shooting (not an issue with the American). This is fine in the field but can be a bit of a pain on the range. It cost me £290 when I bought it and I haven't seen anything that can touch from a cost/performance standpoint. So it's a keeper... Steve P.S. I should confirm that my rifle is in .223 Rem. Edited January 22, 2009 by brno223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thanks mate. Turns out the barrel has 1 in 12 twist rate. I was told only to go for the 1 in 9 twist for heavier bullets but perhaps this is just one chaps opinion. According to my RFD only the varmint heavy barrel comes with 1 in 9 twist. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thanks mate. Turns out the barrel has 1 in 12 twist rate. I was told only to go for the 1 in 9 twist for heavier bullets but perhaps this is just one chaps opinion. According to my RFD only the varmint heavy barrel comes with 1 in 9 twist. James Plenty of accurate loads out there for rifles with a 1 in 12" twist, using 55gr and 60gr bullets. Also plenty of factory ammo. A 1 in 9 twist does allow you to use heavier bullets, which may be an advantage depending on what you want to use the rifle for. As it's got a 1 in 12" twist, it's prolly designed for .223 Rem, rather than 5.56x45. I've come across a number of people who buy a commercial .223 and want to shoot military ammo in it. The advice is that this practice should be avoided. There are subtle differences between .223 and 5.56x45 which mean that military ammo in a commercial 223 can result in excess pressure. Go here and look for the heading '5.56mm NATO versus .223 Remington'. What will you use the rifle for? Will you be reloading for it? Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thanks mate. Turns out the barrel has 1 in 12 twist rate. I was told only to go for the 1 in 9 twist for heavier bullets but perhaps this is just one chaps opinion. According to my RFD only the varmint heavy barrel comes with 1 in 9 twist. James 50 or 55grn bullets will work a treat then ,absolutely no need for heavier bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) There is a down side to fast twist. Some of the lighter varmint bullets can blow up in flight because of the centrifugal (sp?) force being so great. I put some cheap light weight varmint loads through my heavy barrel CZ, and they didn't get to the target As for the CZ, it's a great gun! I have a Varmint in .223 and am just thinking of trading it in for another CZ. I have to say that while some of the classier guns are going all plastic, CZ is getting better. IMO they are a really good buy Edited to say be quick, they're getting expensive now! And the set trigger is very good. Don't put them in the same league as the 452, because they really are a lot better Edited January 23, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot57 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 i too give a thumbs up to the 527, i have the varmint laminated which I've had for about a year now and the build quality is excellent, and with 40g vmax spot on accuracy too, just be aware that the varmint laminated is 1-12 and the varmint synthetic is 1-9 twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Thanks guys, some sound replies. I've read the 5.56 versus 223 previously. And you have also reminded me that the guy who advised me at the begining mentioned 1 in 9 for the cheap military ammo. He's a range man anf gets through a lot of bullets. I'm after foxes and roe and maybe the odd hoody. Doubt I'll worry about the twist rate from now on. Thanks again James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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