DaveH Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Someone posted a question about the best way to handle station 8. I've heard of dust shot being used as the bird is so close and I believe that "spreader" cartridges are legal in NSSA competitions in the States. The only rule I could find in the CPSA ESK section was that cartridges must be factory loaded. Are dust shot cartridges actually used in Skeet comps over here? If so are they available locally or do they have to be imported? Are spreader cartridges permitted in ESK and NSSA comps shot in UK? If they are they'd have to be factory loads. Does anybody make a spreader skeet load? I'm hitting the high birds on 8 with standard size 9 loads at the moment (low is a different matter ) but if you don't ask . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzrat Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Express and RC do a 9.5 shot size in a few of thier brands and I believe hull do the pro 1 in 9.5 also. Wether these are spreader/diffuser loads I would think not as they are there main stream brands like the super comps just available with a smaller shot size. As far as spreader loads are allowed for olympic skeet I dont think they are. see quote from ISSF rule book "Cartridge Specifications Cartridges permitted in ISSF competitions must meet the following specifications: • case length after firing must not exceed 70 mm • shot charge must not exceed 24.5 g • pellets must be spherical in shape • pellets must be made of lead, lead alloy or of any other ISSF approved material • pellets must not exceed 2.6 mm in diameter • pellets may be plated • black powder, tracer, incendiary, or other special type cartridges are prohibited • no internal changes may be made which will give an extra or special dispersion effect, such as the inverse loading of components, crossing devices, etc." Hope some of that helps, Fuzrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Thanks for that. I'd assumed that Olympic would be more restrictive but I'm interested to know what's permitted in ESK and NSSA. Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbit Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I know Victory make a spreader load called the Dispenser in sz9 shot. Its supposed to increase patterns by 50% at 20 metres. Only snag is that its a 32gm load and it would have to be imported especially for you I'd imagine. It would be interesting to know how it performed though. Its listed on Victorys website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C. Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 At stand 8 the clay is so close I doubt if any attempt to widen the pattern would have enough distance to take effect . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 At stand 8 the clay is so close I doubt if any attempt to widen the pattern would have enough distance to take effect . Precisely why I'm sticking a big sheet of paper up on poles in front of a bleedin' great muckheap and testing some of these loads at realistic skeet distances..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 You could always use a rifled choke tube to open the pattern- Browning currently sells one for just that purpose. Be interesting to see what you put on your FAC application for that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Nobody seems to mention the obvious, Fill your pockets with shells, stand on station 8 and practice untill you can hit it every time. When you hit ten without missing, your problem is solved. (Cartridge choice is irelavant) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) For gawrds sake, stop thinking changing cartridges to obscure loads is going make you a champion - don't blame the equipment - go and get some lessons Std 24 8s or 9s break everything on the skeet layout, and if you not hitting them with those, you still wont hit them with 10s or spreaders Edited April 7, 2009 by clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 For gawrds sake, stop thinking changing cartridges to obscure loads is going make you a champion - don't blame the equipment - go and get some lessons Std 24 8s or 9s break everything on the skeet layout, and if you not hitting them with those, you still wont hit them with 10s or spreaders I'm not thinking that changing cartridges will "make me a champion"..... I'm asking what's available in this country vs the States/Europe. I enjoy tinkering with cartridges and patterning, sorry if that's annoying to some people :o . We can all look back on this thread with a bit of nostalgia when we're restricted to steel 7.5s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Mary Arm (tony Manville) do a Bior wad which is only half way up the pellets and spreads quickly in 7.5,8,8.5 they would do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Precisely why I'm sticking a big sheet of paper up on poles in front of a bleedin' great muckheap and testing some of these loads at realistic skeet distances..... The shot wont all reach the target at the same point in time as they dont all leave the barrel in the same instant. Im new to this game but these kind of pattern tests dont seem logical to me as only part of the spread will hit the target. Its the amount of lead you give a clay which dictates which part of the shot cluster hits the target so seeing their final position would seem to me to give very little benefit. Consider shot in flight to a clay: . . . vs. (representation on cardboard target once all shot has reached it) . . . Can someone offer an opinion as to why pattern tests are useful? Not trying to hijack a thread here, just thought it was relevant to discussions on cartridge choice for skeet. Edited April 8, 2009 by notsosureshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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