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[sid the sniper]

Can some 1 tell me what the difference is between 17 fireball, 17hmr,17 remington and the price difference.

[Baldrick]

You're comparing apples with pears: the .17 HMR is a rimfire round for vermin control up to 200 yards, firing a 17- or 20-grain bullet. Costs circa £12 per 50 rounds.

 

The .17 Remington and .17 Fireball are centrefire rounds used for fox control and longer-range vermin control, being significantly more powerful than the .17 HMR round. I do not use these two calibres, but I would anticipate that factory rounds will cost c£30 per box of 20 rounds, and that a handloader could assemble his own for less than £1 per pop.

 

This may clarify: http://www.6mmbr.com/17wildcats.html

[Dave-G]

Sorry if it's a bit of a hijack - but it might help explain things for the OP:

 

Could anyone post up a trajectory graph of a 25 grain 17 rem with a zero of 200 yards for me?

 

The rifle I'm waiting to get my hands on is a top loading rem 700 LVSF with rings for a 50 mm objective scope - so maybe 2" high?

[macca]

Hi,

The hmr is based on a necked down 22 magnum case, shoots a 17 grain projectile at 2450 fps and is a rimfire so no reloading. The 17 remington has a case very similar to a 223 case, uses about 27 grains of powder and pushes a 25 grain pill from 3600 to 4100 fps. The 17 fireball and 17mach iv share the same parent case - 221 fireball pistol case. Both can duplicate the 17 remington ballistics with about 10 grains less powder - extremely efficient. I have a rifle in fireball and mach iv. I prefer the latter - my petload is 18.5 grains of benchmark 2 (benchmark or 2015 overseas) behind a 25 grain hornady for somwhere in excess of 3800fps. I moly my projectiles and only clean every 250 rounds. Mine is set for half inch high at 100m and I hold on for all shots in a light and dont even think of holdover until the range is in excess of 250 metres. It is extremely flat, very quiet in comparrison to a 223 or 17 remington and is my main work gun. Cheers