cocknee Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Don't be cheeky. On that heavy Weald Clay it will be a while before they drill any pulses I would imagine. Rice would be a better crop at the moment it is so wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flycoy Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 No choke opens up until 16 yds anyway so J Dogs 50 yds is actually only 34 so quarter is ample.We as in my shooting buddy and i are using 24 n0 7s in steel and regurally shooting pigeons to 45 yds using cylinder in bottom barrel and 3/8 in top. Both guns tested on pattern plate so good enough pattern at these distances. Tignme, That's my point, we should all know what our guns do with our cartridges at a set distance, to kill a pigeon effectively its around 147 pellets in a 3o inch circle. you need this concentration of shot to hit a vital organ or spinal cord to make a clean kill. we all like a challenging day but how many of the 50yrd birds are slightly pricked? if you pattern you can then choke to suit. you wouldn't climb down a rock face without a long enough rope! Flycoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Shropshiresam and tigme You should get yourselves up or down to meet up with Flycoy Kenilworth. I am sure he will give you a dealOne thing he will give you is superb instruction and importantly the ability to shoot pigeons with confidence.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Tignme, That's my point, we should all know what our guns do with our cartridges at a set distance, to kill a pigeon effectively its around 147 pellets in a 3o inch circle. you need this concentration of shot to hit a vital organ or spinal cord to make a clean kill. we all like a challenging day but how many of the 50yrd birds are slightly pricked? if you pattern you can then choke to suit. you wouldn't climb down a rock face without a long enough rope! Flycoy I had to shoot at not-so-close birds today, my luck was in - several I thought I had claen missed went 100's of yards then fell dead or just made it into a tree and later fell dead. All a matter of chance, some days you know you have hit them, feathers fly, and so do they!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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