easyhit Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Having had a very interesting chat with Kevin Barratt and his pigeon shooting friend Dave at Kevins new shop in Caterham we did a quick test. Both Kevin and Dave were right shoulder shooters with right master eye. Dave is a very keen pigeon shooter achieving a 2 to 1 ratio. Try this test (especially if you are right shouldered shooter with right master eye): In a safe place, unloaded and with both eyes open throughout the test, mount your gun and point it across the field or your lounge at a small stationary object (top of fence post, light switch etc). Hold that position steady for a second still with both eyes open. Then (right shoulder shooters) close your left eye and see where the end of the barrel is now pointing. recent field trials at the East Anglian, Highclere and CLA Fairs prove that at least 66% of you are going to have a shock if you think your eye dominance is ok and you shoot with both eyes open. Food for discussion may be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 ok so saying that my aim is off,do i now aim with the one eye closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 basic test for master eye. cant believe 66% of right handed shooters are lefties. biggest load of rubbish ive read in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhit Posted August 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 MT, I deal in fact not fiction. Sadly if this forum has experts like Beretta you best ask him or get in touch with me direct. I though Fora were for open minded discussion not for slagging off at quite such an early stage. Good luck Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 you wouldn't be trying to promote any particular product would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 ok so saying that my aim is off,do i now aim with the one eye closed I am stil waiting for the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 just what is your point exactly. are you saying 66% of right handed shooters are wrong and there eye dominance is wrong or what. seriously doubt if you could give me much advice anyway to do with shotgun shooting . plus im not slagging anyone off. just saying your VERY wrong in what your statement said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 you wouldn't be trying to promote any particular product would you? yes this is where all is leading to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 i reckon he reckons you should buy one of those silly looking iluminous thingies that stick on ya rib,so you dont miss any birds anymore.instead of practising your shooting and aim with normal bead till your a good shot i reckon 66% of people need their ceiling s re artexed me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 you wouldn't be trying to promote any particular product would you? yes this is where all is leading to A £30 fibre optic sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 his interests are coaching. well if thats the best he can do i doubt he does very well. how much do you charge easy? and what do you coach??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhit Posted August 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) Dazza, No. That is why I am making it obvious who I am. I have reviewed the Forum and chose this Group as there is nothing on eye dominance that I could find. I was with Kevin Barratt and Dave and I do have the stats. There are a number of ways to overcome the problem not just mine. Not all of the methods work for everyone. What I am pointing out is that there are a lot of shooters out there who believe they have no problem and may be shooting with both eyes open because they have been told, or have done the basic test. (the one Beretta aludes to) when, as MT, says closing a eye will cure it. The effect of middle vision affects a huge number of shooters who have the correct eye aligned to the rib. What I would like to see is shooters identify they have a problem and explore what the methods (and there are many) are for sorting it. Understanding how to identify if you have a problem will result in dealing with it and result in more hits and less wasted cartridges. In hindsight I think it was my error of judgement I think in registering. Sorry MT Edited August 2, 2008 by easyhit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 makes me thankful im in the 33% of people who do no where im pointing my gun. some good points but a bit of scaremongering i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Beretta is one of the countrys top clay shots from what i've heard, so i would be more inclined to belive what he says rathaer than a bloke trying to sell us his product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dazza, No. That is why I am making it obvious who I am. I have reviewed the Forum and chose this Group as there is nothing on eye dominance that I could find. I was with Kevin Barratt and Dave and I do have the stats. There are a number of ways to overcome the problem not just mine. Not all of the methods work for everyone. What I am pointing out is that there are a lot of shooters out there who believe they have no problem and may be shooting with both eyes open because they have been told, or have done the basic test. (the one Beretta aludes to) when, as MT, says closing a eye will cure it. The effect of middle vision affects a huge number of shooters who have the correct eye aligned to the rib. What I would like to see is shooters identify they have a problem and explore what the methods (and there are many) are for sorting it. Understanding how to identify if you have a problem will result in dealing with it and result in more hits and less wasted cartridges. In hindsight I think it was my error of judgement I think in registering. Sorry MT ah man so still not sure what to do but will try the one eye thing anyway.and thanks for bringing it to my attention if it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 makes me thankful im in the 33% of people who do no where im pointing my gun. some good points but a bit of scaremongering i think. Beretta is one of the countrys top clay shots from what i've heard, so i would be more inclined to belive what he says rathaer than a bloke trying to sell us his product now this is really starting to confuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 the guy has some valid points to make on eye dominance but sounds to me like hes touting for punters a bit. tully. 10% off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 the guy has some valid points to make on eye dominance but sounds to me like hes touting for punters a bit. tully. 10% off think we may of seen the last of him still didnt get my answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I did not even realise you were supposed to shoot with both eyes open until a few years ago and I've been shotgun shooting for over twenty years! I am right handed and have a strong left master eye, so shooting with my left eye half/ fully shut is the only way I can hit anything. I had heard previously that the majority of right handed people have a left master eye and vice versa, therefore those shooters who can shoot 'properly' with both eyes open are in fact in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I did not even realise you were supposed to shoot with both eyes open until a few years ago and I've been shotgun shooting for over twenty years! I am right handed and have a strong left master eye, so shooting with my left eye half/ fully shut is the only way I can hit anything. I had heard previously that the majority of right handed people have a left master eye and vice versa, therefore those shooters who can shoot 'properly' with both eyes open are in fact in the minority. ok then for someone who has been shooting for over 20 years and only recently noticed this,makes me feel a tad bit better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyhit Posted August 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) MT, I can not possibly make any more observations or comments on this forum after this one. Too many people have got the wrong end of the stick. However, if you did the test, as no doubt many will, and the gun points off to the left then keep closing your left eye and you will end up with the same eye dominance as Beretta. Sadly as his is probably perfectly natural he will have no perception of the impact. You and I have to use one of the other methods and there are many. Its not how you cure it but rather having the benefit of a little bit more knowledge following free advice so as not to spend the rest of your shooting life hitting less that you could or should Good luck all. You are 100% right Beretta thats the last you will see of me. Edited August 2, 2008 by easyhit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Just read through this and correct me please if i have missed some thing i cannot see what he is supposed to be selling. It seems to me typical PW new member posts and straight away he is shot down some of you guys are bloody unbelievable....... If im wrong i will apologise :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 MT, I can not possibly make any more observations or comments on this forum after this one. Too many people have got the wrong end of the stick. However, if you did the test, as no doubt many will, and the gun points off to the left then keep closing your left eye and you will end up with the same eye dominance as Beretta. Sadly as his is probably perfectly natural he will have no perception of the impact. You and I have to use one of the other methods and there are many. Its not how you cure it it is not spending the rest of your shooting life hitting less that you can or should with just a little bit more knowledge following free advice. Good luck all. You are 100% right Beretta thats the last you will see of me. well thanks for that and so sorry to see that you have let some of the more sceptical people on this forum put you off,and again thanks for the advice it could well be some of the best advice i have been given on here or not ,time will of coarse tell,probably in about 2 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Just read through this and correct me please if i have missed some thing i cannot see what he is supposed to be selling. It seems to me typical PW new member posts and straight away he is shot down some of you guys are bloody unbelievable....... If im wrong i will apologise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Just read through this and correct me please if i have missed some thing i cannot see what he is supposed to be selling. It seems to me typical PW new member posts and straight away he is shot down some of you guys are bloody unbelievable....... If im wrong i will apologise :good: his name is easyhit,and he invented easyhit eye dominance bead for guns,and he opens first post with do you know most people have dominance problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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