JohnfromUK
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It seems that those in quarantine in the UK are both comfortable and very satisfied with how they have been treated https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7995485/Escape-Wuhan-British-student-27-tells-panic-paranoia-living-fear-China.html
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8 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said:
You make a good point. I don't think we should be legislating to the lowest intellectual common denominator. It doesn't help with people being able to risk assess for themselves. Better education and not taking the British outdoors for granted would be a good place to start. Or even something like a traffic light system at all mountain access points:
Green: the mountain's at its safest,
Yellow: some dicey bits, with dubious weather and best left to those with reasonable experience
Red: Dangerous. Do not attempt without serious levels of experience and equipment.
That way it's just information, the call is still yours, but you'd be under no illusions as to the dangers awaiting you.
Its a difficult one in some ways. I have some experience of hill walking, having done a lot of walking for grouse over the past 30+ years. A few years ago, my office had a team doing the 3 peaks - and as it coincided with my annual Scotland visit, I decided I would 'do' Ben Nevis with them. I stayed near Fort William the night before and checked out the parking etc. the previous day. It was a lovely clear day in early September and through the binos I could see people on the track up the Ben Nevis 'tourist' route. Next day, the day of the challenge was cold, wet and misty, but I felt committed to following through on my support, but couldn't wait about as they were running late.
I ascended Ben Nevis in pretty unpleasant, though not dangerous conditions, reaching the top about lunchtime. It was near freezing at the top, and blowing wet cloud through with very little visibility. I came back down (you couldn't stay still for long without getting cold) - meeting the 3 peaks team part way down. Some of them (the faster fitter ones) made it, some were turned back (by their professional guides) due to the conditions.
I was equipped with decent warm waterproof clothes and boots, map, compass and food, coffee etc. (no mobile phones then I think), and followed the tourist path, which is a long walk, very well marked and not hard going - and has plenty of traffic (in September anyway).
My points are that firstly conditions can change from nice to nasty very quickly - and even in the early autumn, and conditions can be sufficient to make it tough for even those well equipped. It is also VERY different at the top to the lower slopes. There is no way anyone, however equipped and experienced should be attempting it when severe weather like named storms are forecast. There is too high a chance of mishap - which could so easily result in loss of life.
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Credit where credit is due.
It is quieter here now, but we have had a stormy day - with some really vicious gusts at times. Rain has been fairly limited here. What has been impressive (and I sincerely hope I'm not speaking too soon) is that we have had 100% solid power all through. No noticeable glitches, dips - and no cuts.
Twenty years ago it was the publicly owned Electricity Board and it only needed a minor storm and we would be without power for hours - one clap of thunder and it was off. It was rare to go much over a week without some form of interruption, and cuts were prolonged, sometimes over 24 hours. All local farmers with dairies had to have emergency generators to manage milking and keeping milk cool, as did those rearing poultry or game with electric heating. Since it was privatised, much of the infrastructure has been replaced, some cables moved underground - and much more attention has been paid to trimming trees around cables.
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15 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:
Which goes further to confirm the Labour party so called elite have no regard whatsoever for the law
A former Head of the Crown Prosecution Service and Director of Public Prosecutions - who would have thought it !!!
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Not much rain here yet, but quite a high wind - and some very vicious gusts with almost lulls in between. Won't be doing my usual Sunday clays today.
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54 minutes ago, buze said:
I don't see myself shooting HP in a gun that light
That makes sense!
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8 minutes ago, buze said:
Well so, it turns out it was not a #2, it is a #1 from 2004. Inspected it and it is *not* steel proof as it was assumed.
Anyway, I did 100+ clays with it, and I shoot it very wheel. 30" barrels, good weight to it, good swing to it, recoil is 'in line' so very little muzzle flip. It's 1/4" too short, and a bit too low.
AyAs with 30" barrels are very much in the minority, so you did well to find that. I have a No 1 (basic design 28" model from 1977) and have been very pleased with it. When you say you will have it proofed for steel, I assume this is not HP steel?
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Just now, London Best said:
Arrietta do some very nice stuff.
That may be 'did' and I wholly agree. Much of the William Powell (s/s) range in recent times was made by Arietta (and I have no doubt many other 'English' names who are less open than Powells about origins), however I believe that are no longer actively in business.
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7 minutes ago, button said:
The self opening option is almost £3k extra and the round action is an extra £500 over the base model
Make sure you are happy with self opening - especially if a lady is also to use the gun; not everyone likes it because it makes for significantly more effort needed to close - and the opening lever can also be a bit stiffer to operate to open. The effect can be quite noticeable for those (especially ladies) with smaller or less strong hands. It also adds a little weight on an AyA because (unlike the Purdey/Beesley which is 'integral') the AyA system is based on a Holland `and Holland Royal with an additional spring in the forend.
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Just now, dead eye alan said:
And that makes them unelectable!
I sincerely hope so; I think at present that would be true but;
- Attitudes in the electorate change over time
- People get a feeling that 'a change' is needed
- Any government in for several terms struggles to keep popular because there are always tough decisions to be made
- People forget (and the newest younger members of the electorate don't know) just how bad (for almost everyone) lefty labour policies actually are for the general public and economy.
- It is easy to promise 'the earth' when you are in opposition
3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:I really believe she knows the Party will not get in to power under her if she is elected
Not sure that is true - her rose tinted blinkers (and the people with whom she and the inner Corbyn circle surround themselves and listen to such as Owen Jones etc.) may prevent the truth getting through
4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:consequently she is planning to be a Pain In The Bottom whilst in opposition!
To be fair (and to prove once and for all I am totally unbiased!!) - it is the duty of the Opposition to oppose.
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A taste of how Wrong Daily would like to see the UK's future
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There is a comparison between the two most commonly encountered uses of Beesley's patent here: https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/purdey-atkin-sidelocks
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18 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:
hammerless sidelock, but the fall of the barrels does not cock the locks, nor does the closing as in a Purdey action.
To correct you (slightly) I think you will find the 'Purdey' action (Beesley's patent) actually cocks the tumblers (i.e. raises the internal hammers and re-engages the sears in the bents) on opening, but compresses the springs (which do both the self opening and the 'mainspring' for the tumblers) on closing. For this reason, when stored in its case disassembled (which no one ever does except when travelling), the springs are relaxed as they are only ever tensioned when the barrels are closed. Apologies photo has got distorted
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Just now, London Best said:
Does that one have to be cocked using the little levers?
The one I was shown has a later, more modern style of sidelock and pin fire style hammers.I know very little about it. By one of those coincidences, I had just read a post on Facebook by Vintage Guns with that picture when I read your post, so 'cross posted' the picture. That one is a double rifle. The little 'levers' look too small - and I suspect are just 'cocked' indicators. Actual cocking may be from the barrel drop. It was just a picture by the same maker which arrived at the same time - and on roughly the same subject!
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5 minutes ago, London Best said:
Think hammerless sidelock, but the fall of the barrels does not cock the locks, nor does the closing as in a Purdey action. You have to cock the locks with two external “hammers” which are actually cocking levers. The hammers do not hit the strikers, they are fired internally as in a normal hammerless sidelock.
Like this? (Photo by Vintage Guns)
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14 minutes ago, Old farrier said:
not familiar with the aya senior
The Senior (also sometimes called the Premier) was made in very small numbers (about 40 in total) between 1979 and 1987. It was based on the Purdey/Beesley self opening action and very expensive when new. There is (or at least was recently) a composed pair for sale in the UK recently (Sportarm?) that have been converted to single trigger.
If proved in Spain, I think the weight of the barrels at proof is stamped on the flats if I remember rightly.
Model 56 is a nice and rare gun.
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18 hours ago, Old farrier said:
30 inch are full and full
28 inch are 1/4...1/4
Interesting. My AyA Senior has 2 sets barrels - exactly as yours! I have never fired the 30" set.
The 28" barrels are original to the gun and were proved in Spain, the 30" barrels are still 2 3/4" chambered, but magnum (1350kg) proofed (proof for gun with the 30" barrels was done in Birmingham, although the barrels were made by AyA), so the gun carries both Spanish and Birmingham proof marks.
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It seems that Richard Burgon one of the candidates for the deputy leadership wants "Labour Party Members" (not Parliament, the cabinet, the electorate, but PARTY MEMBERS) to have a veto over UK international military policy. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7973361/Corbynista-Richard-Burgon-wants-let-580-000-party-VOTE-decide-Britain-WAR.html
He is supported by Diane Abbott (of course).
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52 minutes ago, motty said:
I wouldn't want a gun with cylinder chokes.
I have an old hammer gun, true cyl both (Damascus) barrels - and at 'normal' ranges it is a very good clay breaker. Some years ago, a friend (I'm not good enough) shot a 24/25 on DTL(!) with it with 1oz fibre loads - there really can't be much wrong with the patterns to do that.
I have heard that true cylinder is rather more cartridge dependant than a bit of choke, but how true that is, I can't say for certain.
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40 minutes ago, oowee said:
Imagine a state creates and release's a virus to which they have a vaccine. Tell the world about the terror rather than keep quiet as might otherwise be the case. A few weeks on with the world on edge waiting for an outbreak, announce a miracle cure that your universities have created.
Sell the vaccine world wide, gain Kudos for creating such a drug and saving the world all at the same time.
You've been reading too many cheap paperbacks! 🤣
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Pelosi has one of the most grating and irritating voices to be heard on the political scene today. The content of what she says isn't much better either.
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3 minutes ago, Rewulf said:
the bleeding hearts are already talking about challenging it
Sharmi Chakrabarti is a 'stirer' who is frequently against 'punishment' and many aspects of what might be called 'law and order' and was a director of Liberty (the civil rights and human rights protest group) - in which post she campaigned against 'anti terrorist' legislation. She opposes private education ......... but sends he own offspring to private fee paying school.
A typical Labour hypocrite who likes to stir to keep herself on the front page. I suspect she will campaign to have these convicted terrorists released ........ but not to her street.
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39 minutes ago, wymberley said:
Can't help but feel somewhat sorry for the OP
The original question was "Is it possible to get the gun choked or will it be ok for the aforementioned activities?" and is in two parts;
I think part one has been answered in that - Yes - you could get it choked such as by Teague, or possibly by other boring, but it might be costly for what is an inexpensive gun.
Part two has been answered in that - Yes - it will be OK; not perhaps ideal for everything, but fine for the OP's intended use, especially if the cartridge is selected to suit. The general consensus is not to get unduly worried over having a particular choke/chokes for 'general purpose' use.
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59 minutes ago, London Best said:
For pity’s sake, stop fretting over theoretical patterns and ranges and get out and do some shooting.
This /\
I have a number of guns - mostly fairly 'vintage'. I cannot remember what chokes are in them exactly other than none are greater than half - nor do I care. At all 'normal' ranges and for an average shot - it really isn't that important.
If you are a really top notch shot - and shooting clays at a high competitive level - choke may matter to you - but it is very unlikely you would be shooting a short barrelled s/s when shooting clays competitions.
My AyA s/s does me well - and I don't concern myself about the chokes (can't remember what they are). They are what they are and it performs better than my marksmanship at all ranges I am likely to shoot at.
More Labour controversy.
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A very typical Labour 'official' it seems.