Bryn12

Sounds to me like a typical rifle shooter problem, all the time I was competing with rifles I trained hard so the only thing that moved once the sight picture was obtained was my right index finger, shotgun is very different. Mental imaging is a very powerful tool if used correctly, on the other hand your subconscious can really drop you in it - but thats for another thread.

Had/have the same problem. Try holding a broom like an imaginary gun, practice moving if left right ip down, concentrate on keeping it moving while imagining firing 2 shots each time. Once you've got that going close you're eyes and repeat while imagining the clays.

Next step organised, lesson and have a look at some guns on Wednesday

Recently developed a taste for branston pickle mini chedders help me survive night shifts. I'd have to be hanging onto the floor trying not to fall off hammered to even contemplate a kebab.

yeah I joined the Thornhill club a few months ago and they've been great, had a go with a Miroku last time out and was hitting driven and crossers with it fairly well, even managed to hit a couple of DTL, it just didn't 'feel' quite right though

Yup think a trip to a range/gun stockist is required next week there's a range @3 miles from here not sure how it operates but the local club are having their April meet there while the regular field is used for lambing. Think its coin or token operated if there is such a thing, could be a useful place to practice regularly.

I do really like the idea of Skeet but Sporting is probably what I'm more familiar with though I'd like to try as many disciplines as I can and the 'starburst' set up looks fun . My inclination is to go with a sporter to start with and aim to upgrade in a year or so when 1. I'll have a better idea what my requirements are, 2. I'll hopefully have more funds. At the moment I'm a bit frustrated as I don't have an OU and find borrowing guns a bit limiting because they aren't set up for me and I don't know what I'm going to be borrowing from one week to the next. I really want to get my own 'clay' gun pretty soon so I can concentrate on getting familiar with it and working on the basics without the distractions of different triggers, chokes, safeties barrel lengths &etc., To my mind lessons/coaching are as essential as getting the right gun fitted (even roughly) in developing my shooting. Once I have that gun I can then work on dry fire, muscle memory and the mental side of things, right now I feel I'm at a bit of an impasse.

I'm a fairly classic endo morph, not tall but wide across the shoulders and smashed up my right wrist playing rugby so I cant any gun I'm given, I'm assuming a fitted stock would allow for that?

So basically find a gun you like and get on with?

OK further thoughts, I've been struggling to see much difference between Sporter, Game and Trap models as far as I can see the main difference is the pistol grip - the Sporter seems to be deeper with a quicker curve, and a lower comb thought game guns tend to have prettier engraving What are the main differences and is there much, if any, difference in performance/handling between say a Sporter and game of the same make and model with the same length barrels and same chokes? Sorry for being so clueless but I've always just used the 'family' guns in the past

ah right, the ones I've looked at are 'oiled' so I'm assuming they're OK. What are the general impression of Winchesters as the look of select energy sporting adj signature kind of appeals apart from the rediculous name and f'ugly scalloping

Thanks I'll bear that in mind, do baretta, miroku & browning use that material?

Thanks everyone, plenty to think about, I believe mrs bryn has signed up and is just waiting for admin to let her loose on here. I see the nearest place that stocks Browning, Miroku and Winchester is the North Ayrshire ground/continental I see they also have some Berettas in stock too so will try and organise something in the next couple of weeks. Roughly fitted is fine as a starting point

Agreed and the reason I want to get decent guns properly fitted right from the start, much better to start with a gun that fits you rather than start off by adapting yourself to the gun and then having to correct everything when you get a gun that is fitted. My match rifle was an Anschutz 1913 supermatch with pretty much fully adjustable everything and then I adapted it a bit more

thanks £40-80 over the year is fine, its more important that she has a gun she's happy with.

Time to organise trying lots of guns, budget for both guns is @3k, obviously if they come in under that I won't be upset I'm in SSW Scotland but am prepared and able to travel during the week to the right place, any suggestions/recommendations as to the best outlet, range, fitter.

The gun she had her try with was a 20. I think its now a case of finding the time to go and try as many as we can Am I right in thinking Clay comp cartridges are limited to 28gr, if so what's the difference between putting shot through say a cylinder 20 and a choked 12? or am I misunderstanding chokes

I found one of the keys to successful competing was to control everything you can but forget about scores and do your best with each shot and every shot. Set your own goals under the conditions and be honest with yourself. You can't control how others perform so forget about them. We were coached that "Success is when preparation meets opportunity" and I found it to be true.

Thanks I'd sort of come down to the triumvirate of Beretta, Browning, Miroku and 30" is certainly more common than 28" so I suppose that tells a story. Suggestions for my better half? She's not fussed about competing just enjoys breaking them so I've been told light, low recoil and 'pretty'.

Enjoyed Lowther last year, Drumlanrig is good too, only a couple of hours off the ferry B) ,

OK I'm not a complete newbie to shooting or clays but am coming back to shotguns after a couple of decades and have decided that I'd like to concentrate on clays, no idea what discipline yet as I'd like to try as wide a range as possible and see what floats my boat. I'm about to start looking at an suitable gun to get me started so here's how I'm thinking OU, 12g, 28", multichoke, fitted and/or adjustable comb my idea for the shorter barrel and multichokes is to give me the best chance of hitting things to start with then gradually fitting tighter chokes as I improve and gain confidence. My current strength (maybe the wrong word) is driven, my weakness seams to be DTL 1. Is my thinking completely wrong 2. would it be possible/adviseable to fit say 30" or even 32" barrels in the future if that's the direction I progress in 3. if the above thinking is sound (possibly unlikely) what are my options with a budget of @£1500 to start off with Not doing much just now as I'd like to start in earnest with a gun that suits/fits me thanks

looks like a bargain

what a beautiful dog, hope you get him back safe and sound. worth putting it on here http://www.gundogtrainingforum.co.uk/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=36

Bryn is the name of my Springer who was born in November 2012 and has led me down a long and twisty road back to shooting