Croohur
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Going to check out a Beretta 686E Sporter 30" (not an Evo, I think its from around 2006/7) that someone I know is selling. Previous owner was a woman so stock has been shortened slightly and it has an adjustable comb.
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I think a new Kofs or a second hand Beretta is what is achievable in our budget and both would be a good first gun. We are going to have a look at both in the next week or two
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3 hours ago, figgy said:
Croohur even with the UK out of Europe, in order to sell food stuffs to Europe we will have to comply with the ruling. It won't only be lead but plastic wads too will go, there are eco alternatives. Micro plastics are a no no too.
Thought China might have dominated the cartridge market across Europe years ago with cheap carts, but it never happened. When a lead ban does come into force the heavy weight shot manufacturers will have a larger market.
I personally hate using plastic wads as most of my shooting is on the family farm and it's not really necessary for the type of shooting I do. Very glad that manufacturers like Eley are pushing on with these new steel carts with biodegradable wads and hope more and more manufacturers start getting their finger out.
What sticks in my craw is the lack of regard or respect to the shooting community to decide a ban will happen and then find the science to prove their point of view. If big businesses did this they would be rightly pilloried and the scientific conclusions ignored. But unelected functionaries in power can make that decision (whether it is correct or not), and whether there is an alternative or not and it will slowly churn its way into law.
Ideally I would rather not use lead, but it feels like it is more of a ruse to price gun owners out of their own past time than a genuine attempt to be environmentally friendly.
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"The European Commission (EC) has requested the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) to prepare a restriction proposal addressing the risk to wildlife and humans (via the consumption of game meat) from lead in all ammunition (shot and bullets) including target shooting."
So the EU Commission have decided lead is bad and then asked its scientific body for the evidence to ban it. Which can only end one way when scientific research is conducted in this manner. I am in Ireland and under no illusion that lead will be banned in the coming years. Wherever the United Kingdom are politically at that time (depending on what happens in the coming weeks) itwill have repercussions with you.
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3 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said:
I can’t add too much to this as Mrs Udderly is currently shooting with a basic 12G £400 Bettinsolli with a £15 neoprene comb raiser with fetching pink duct tape securing it. She is 1.78m (5’ 10”) tall.
She did try the CG Syren and the Beretta Vittoria at the Ian Coley open day in the Spring, she shot well with both of them, with the favourite being the CG. This despite the ‘flowery’ engraving not being to her taste. Apparently CG are going to be producing a less fancy but mechanically identical gun to the Syren but sold under the Fabarm brand for considerably less than the CG. The Browning Liberty light was also shouldered but not tried.
That said, she doesn’t want to have that much money tied up in a gun so is more than happy to continue to find her feet with the Bettinsoli.
She also has no interest in game/vermin shooting (but is happy to peel+cook whatever I shoot, spicy bunny pie tonight)
Interesting!
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12 hours ago, ehb102 said:
Polling of the 500+ women in a group I am in shows the 12G/20G split is roughly 65/35 with a small minority having both. Clay shooters end up with 12Gs, game shooters who never shoot competition clays are happy with their 20Gs. Size of woman has nothing to do with it. Knowledge and experience has everything. I have known a fair few women shoot 20G for years and then change to 12G, and that's because their learning curve was slower as they didn't shoot that much. The only people I remember going from 12 to 20 cited shoulder problems.
Kofs gun was spoken of very highly for the price but the two ladies who talked about them have upgraded within a year. "Ladies" guns feels like a bit of a scam to me, but actually it's probably cheaper for most people to pay the extra at purchase than to develop the knowledge to get an ordinary gun altered. Having said that a second hand CG Syren is quite reasonable in price these days. Those were designed with Tania Faulds and she's teeny. The Browning Liberty Light is getting rave reviews from lady guns I know. I only know one with a Vittoria.
Beretta 682 gold e is a model that was recommended to me for being light barrels. I liked it but a friend sold me something else as a favour so didn't buy one. Browning 525, the later ones, are also much loved.
The Beretta Ultralight does not seem to stay long in a women's cabinet. Nice idea, horrible kick. Better a normal 12G with neutral pitch on a shorter stock and a good recoil pad.
Thank you, great post.
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54 minutes ago, Wingman said:
Agree with the lighter cartridges my Mrs shoots 21 gram always.
Yes the missus calls them "lady carts"
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16 minutes ago, Westward said:
Most women I know shoot normal weight 12g O/Us. One or 2 use 12g semis but I can't think of any who use a 20. Everyone thinks a 12g is heavy the first time they use it but it takes no time to get used to the weight.
As far as gun fit goes, women usually benefit from a higher comb and most need a shorter stock. CG noticed the different fit requirements and with their Syren brand they started the trend for making guns specifically to fit women. Since then Beretta, Blaser, Zoli and possibly others have introduced women's models.
This definitely seems to be a common complaint! I had a Lanber game gun before the semi auto, about 7lb 2ou that fit her reasonably well, but there was terrible wailing about the weight of it.
I put some light weights beside the sofa in the tv room as a subtle hint....
10 minutes ago, figgy said:If she is petite any shorter stocked gun she likes the handling of, all can be fitted to her. Or made into adjustable comb to fit.
A Beretta silver pigeon or 690 with 28 or 30" barrels would be what I'd look at first, then Ceasar Guerini Syren.
She has used a Silver Pig at a few of the lessons she had in 20 bore and loved it
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21 minutes ago, JTaylor91 said:
My mrs uses a kofs 12 they are pretty light so she doesn’t struggle with the weight and recoil isn’t an issue for her.
Yes, I have heard that about the Kofs, lighter and shorter LOP than say an ATA. Gun Shop did a comparison YouTube video on them
33 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:There was a good thread on this a few months ago .. a search for Syren will show a few threads with lots of information in ...
Thanks, will have a look for that
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Afternoon all,
My wife has gotten into clays and has been borrowing my gun, a semi auto she doesnt really like. I'm just wondering what experiences people have had with wives, partners, girlfriends, friends misc., etc.
What shop bought gun, maybe with a slightly higher comb and shorter LOP that you can currently buy is out there that the "average" woman can use. I know, its all down to fit, but are there lighter 12 bores out there that you know that seems to work better for women than others.
Excluding the Fausti Aphrodite, Browning Whatchamcallit etc.
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3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, looking on different web sites here and USA, shotgunworld.com some do have this problem , one fix was to fit an extended carrier or lighter spring, if that was me i would take back to RFD and send to importer in Hampshire and let them sort it ( 01635 253344 ), if it is still in warranty you might think to change to a different brand like an Armsan
No, no longer in warranty, I did see that about the shortening the spring and thats a possibility. I didnt understand why an extended carrier would have an effect on the bolt release button, do you know why that would have an effect? This would increase the leverage when the button is pushed????
This is what they recommended to use, longer, so some wood had to be removed from the fore-end for it to sit in snug
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Right, will take out the trigger tomorrow and have a look. Thanks lads
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Just wondered if anyone has ever had an issue with the bolt release button on a gas operated semi auto when the bolt is in the locked position when empty. The bolt release button (this is a Yildiz A71) occasionally seems to stick, it cant be pushed down to release the bolt unless you pull the bolt charging handle back a half inch then press the button. The bolt will then slide forward as normal. I have given it a clean and an oil when the barrel was off and the bolt was out, but havent gotten inside to have a proper look.
The picture below shows where the sometimes frozen button is, the arrow is supposed to signify where I have to pull the charging handle back the half inch so the button then becomes unfrozen and can be pushed into trelease the bolt.
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8 hours ago, billytheghillie said:
P.S. you need a new gun slip, that one is way to small!
I know! Another thing to add to the list. Another reason to hear my wife say, "What do you need another one of those for?"
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8 minutes ago, vampire said:
I promise you this will work.
Get some Vanish Oxi Action (powder fabric stain remover) mine is in a pink tub.
Fill a bucket with as hot a water as is bearable and add 2 scoops of powder,with a clean paint brush and holding fore end in one hand out of water,dip brush in water and coat inside only of fore end,keep doing it until you see the water getting mucky .
Now its soaked,get a tooth brush and agitate then scrub the wood and rinse off with clean water.
Dry with a towel and wrap tight it in the towel and leave to dry naturally,do not force dry.
Now its dry.
You will now be looking at the wood exactly as the guy who made it and ready to receive any finish when its thoroughly dry.
I have done this before to some wood stocks I thought I had finished and were ready for oil,then I watched some American site where they washed the wood,so raided the kitchen cupboard and cracked on,to say I was amazed with the result does not express how totally stunned I was with my new stock and fore end and it was as mucky as yours when I started.
The only thing I did different from above was that I totally submerged my wood and scrubbed it and repeated the process and left the butt soaking in the bucket to pull out the oil.
My wood did not split/warp crack or move out of shape,it just looked brand new.
Do it and join the oxi movement😂 everyone will be doing this one day.
Be handy if you could post a picture of the results which ever way you decide to go.
I think I saw some thing like that too Iraqveteran8888 perhaps?? I was always a bit terrified to give it a go.
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4 minutes ago, figgy said:
I'd just sand it lightly, clean with acetone and seal it with stock oil. Chances are the hot gasses will burn through whatever you try and protect it with.
If this does happen just shoot it and forget about marking inside the forend.
Sounds good
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46 minutes ago, Wingman said:
Blimey that looks positively sparkly compared to some of my old Browning Auto5’s!
Ahh, "old" Brownings though. This cant be more than 7-8 years old (I think). Hard to tell with Turkish guns as there is no date stamp AFAIK.
If nothing else, she's a looker on the outside anyway
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It does seem to have penetrated a bit into the wood, but its a newish gun so thankfully it doesnt look like it is too deep.
This is the fore end.
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I bought a 2nd hand semi auto with wood stock recently. It has lovely walnut, but the previous owner didnt keep the "inside" of the fore end too clean so there is quite a bit of accumulated gas deposits and grime on the interior. The exterior is pristine. Just wondering what would be the best way to clean the interior before I gave it a protective coating without damaging the exterior wood.
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4 minutes ago, Miroku_Dave said:
This is another ‘blank’ from them, they’re great to practice handles with 👍
Really, really nice!!!! Was just looking at those mosaic pins on the website and thinking "I wonder what they look like on a handle?"!
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11 minutes ago, Miroku_Dave said:
Hi mate, there’s a company called Ground Flat Stock Knife supplies in Bedale, North Yorkshire. They have all sorts of bolts, screws, pins etc. I’ve been using carbon fibre pins for a while that I really like however in the past I’ve used steel for the in-trays at work, a redundant screwdriver, a brass drift, all sorts really. You can drill the blanks fairly easily (as long as you keep the drill speed low!)
you’ll need some epoxy as well, GFS stock it but I’ve seen guys use gorilla glue epoxy or any other two part mixture would work.
Im a master of saving money so I’ll use all sorts 🤣
Fantastic, thanks for that - going to have a dive into that website now....
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2 hours ago, Dibble said:
You can buy a blade or a kit to start with
https://www.heinnie.com/enzo-necker-70-scandi
I wouldn't go too cheap purely because you want something worthwhile at the end.
Afternoon all, long time lurker here admiring all that is produced on this forum. I would be really interested in giving this a go, starting off small and slow. I actually have a fair bit of blackthorn I cut a few years back on the farm and was looking for a project to use it up. I noticed on the Heinnie site you can buy kits (blade, wood blank, bolts for attaching two together). As I already have the wood blanks, all I would be interested in would be the blade and the bolt/screws (what are these called?!). Does anyone know where I could get a pile of these bolt/screws that would fit in the heinnie knife blanks??
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6 hours ago, figgy said:
Nah if they were most knowledgeable they would have got it right.
Should have ended the sentence with "compared to me"....
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Thanks everyone for their input. Just goes to show even the most knowledgble fellows can get it wrong every now and again.
Standard shop bought guns for women
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We ended up buying a Bettinsoli Diamond X-grade game gun in 20 bore. Confidence wise she wanted to stick with the 20, maybe after some more practice if she keeps enjoying it we can switch to a 12. The game version suits her, just need to slightly shorten the stock.