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As above. A complete 17 HMR setup including everything required to get going. Tikka T1X 17 HMR rifle - 16" Barrel, 5 round magazine, black synthetic stock with low round count. Less than 100 round fired from new. Hawke vantage 4-16x50ir 17 HMR reticle c/w Hawke match mounts. SAK Moderator. Approx. 75 rounds of 17g VMAX. Bipod not included £595 Face to face collection in CF44 S. Wales preferred, must have appropriate slots on FAC. Can be RFD transferred at the buyers cost (both ends).

It wasn't. These threads always go one way with one trying to out do another on how rough they had and the young ones would be all good if only they didn't buy coffee and mobile phones. Sorry to hear about your situation and I'm glad it got corrected in the end.

Here come the boomers to claim they worked 86 hours a day, 72 days a week, 155 weeks of the year for 86 years straight, delivered newspapers on the way to and from their 164 hour shift at the **** shoveling plant, ate only a single bean for tea and inhaled the vapors from a used teabag for breakfast and still got by. The worlds changed, how people make money has changed. It's a different struggle but the issues are still there. The vast majority of people still aren't earning enough and those that do are having it stolen from them by the government and ultra rich. If most of you were to go back to your younger days and tell your past self that one day the minimum wage would be over £12.00 an hour you'd be amazed and excited for the future. If you were to then say that also, your mortgage is going to be £1200 a month for an average 3 bed semi, a basic car would cost over £20k and a meal for two in a pub would set you back over £80 and a pint of beer near £5 then you wouldn't think it so great.

In this day and age I don't think that there's all that much difference between the manufacturers. Especially as most are using off the shelf components made by Cheddite or similar. I don't think there are many manufacturers who manufacture their own powders, plastic wads or cases. Some drop and grade their own shot with their own combinations of lead, antimony etc and some just buy in shot from a third party and grade and some just buy in shot and feed it straight into the machines. If there was more than a 5% real world performance difference between the cheapest plastic wad cartridges (Fiocchi TT1, litespeed, Hull Superfasts and so on) and the most expensive plastic wad cartridges (Hull Sovereign, Gamebore Dark Storm Onyx) of the same shot size and common wad type then I would be surprised. I'd even go as far as saying that 95% of shooters probably wouldn't notice a difference in performance in blind testing. Fiber wad cartridges likely have more a gulf between the highest and lowest as the performance of the wad really makes the difference with those. IMO its the psychological game that really makes the difference. If you have a good day with cartridge X, set a new PB or achieve a high gun in a competition or something and then have a nightmare of a day with cartridge Y, you're much more likely to feel confident in continuing to use cartridge X. In reality it's highly likely that you could have swapped cartridge X and Y around in those scenarios and had the same result. Comparing real world performance of different cartridges is quite hard to do due to the sheer amount of inconsistencies in how people shoot in both the short and long term. I'd wager that if you could remove the human from the equation then any modern cartridge could hit any target (within reason) 999 times out of a 1000.

Have a good look at the head of the bottom firing pin. It likely has some pitting or even a chip out of the tip of the firing pin. If you are lucky then you may just have some crud built up into the recess in which the firing pin sits which is impeding the movement of the pin.

And 9 out of 10 of that 9 out of 10 will be the old Browning bottom barrel firing pin light strike. Whenever someone has a misfire in the squad I'm shooting with, it's nearly always the Fiocchi/ Browning bottom barrel combo that's the issue. It used to happen regularly with my 725 Pro Sport and happens at least once in 500 cartridges in my 525 game gun whenever I use that to shoot clays. The firing pins are made of cheese and with the angle at which the pin strikes the primer means they chip away quite quickly and can no longer function reliably with harder or more recessed primers. If you were to then put the 'misfired' cartridge into the top it would go off no problem. It was part of the reason I got rid of my 725. I switched to a Beretta and I haven't a single misfire since.

I don't think that Hull are bad cartridges, they are just too expensive considering the performance on offer from the competition. F3s are Fiocchi's answer to the Pro range from Hull and are every bit as good, if not better, than the Pro range. Comp X used to be quite reasonable and I did use them for practice as they were low noise, low recoil and fairly good cartridges but they have since gone up to near £300 a thousand. Laylvale super lights are of the same premise as the Comp X and are available locally for £250-£260 a thousand. It makes no sense to pay all that extra for no real gain. I've tried both and I don't think the Pro One cartridges are as good as the F3 range. It may be that I was going through a patch of bad form when I was using them and its a case causation vs correlation. Clay target shooting is as much a mind game and as it is of skill and equipment and the F3s just happen to work for me and are more competitively priced than the Hull cartridges. The F3 sporting piston in 8.5, UK 8 shot are exceptional cartridges. A really good, wide pattern with a good immediate spread because of the piston wad and able to take most targets out to 45 yards. For your average straw bail or Sunday morning shoots then the Litespeed or TT1s are perfectly adequate unless, like the OP, some gorilla has been throwing them about the place before they purchased them but that could happen to any cartridge at any cost. I've used Hull game cartridges in the past and I just couldn't find anything in my use case that needed a Hull High Pheasant over a boggo basic game cartridge from any other manufacturer. I actually think that Eley Pigeon selects take some beating in 85% of game shooting scenarios. If they did them in a 5 shot and the looming lead ban wasn't a thing then I would use them over anything else. 30g of 6 shot in a relatively light recoiling cartridge did the business for me.

I don't think I'd be chewing on the primer end.. 🤣 It was misshapen in the same way the cartridge second from the left in the OPs image was.

Looks like they have been poorly handled more than anything. Could have been anywhere from initial distribution through to the RFD being sloppy and dropping pallets against one and other or something. I use almost exclusively Fiocchi for my clay shooting and haven't had a single reject over the last 10-15k apart from one F Black which was a little misshapen out of the box. Still worked ok once I had pressed it back into the correct shape with my teeth. At this moment, Fiocchi are still, by far, the best cartridge in terms of performance vs cost and availability. Eley are non-existent around my way and what you can buy are being resold through non account holding RFDs so they have twice the margin on them and are very expensive at over £300 per thou for Selects and Blues. Hull are in just a plain rip off territory and Gamebore are almost as bad as Hull with less availability. I can pick up a thousand F3's for £290 which offers everything that the Hull Pro One range offers at around £50 per thousand less. I use F Blacks for practice which are around £265-£270 a thousand wad type depending. Nothing else even comes close to that.

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Please do. This one is practically new. It was a warranty replacement for an original but other than being fitted to zero a scope it's not been used.

If Jaymo drives an EV or Hybrid then what he's saying is true. An Ev or hybrid will use the drag of its electric motors being spun in reverse to generate electric and recharge its batteries. Regen won't bring you to a complete emergency stop but it's strong enough to enable one foot driving. It's similar to rheostatic braking on a train but instead of the energy being turned into heat and vented off, it's used to recharge the car. Of course they still have conventional brakes for emergency stops and harsh braking that wouldn't be possible using the motors. Under some conditions they use the conventionql brakes so little that the discs wear through corrosion more than use.

Many thanks. I can confirm that the thread is 5/8 UNF.

I couldn't tell you for sure. It was bought used and came on a rifle. I don't have access to thread measuring equipment to be certain. It was fitted to a Remington 700. Google suggests that the standard moderator thread size for a 700 cut by Edgar Bros when imported to the UK is 5/8x18UNF and wildcat does supply these moderators in that thread size.

As above, Wildcat Predator Moderator. Used in conjunction with a Remington 700 .223 rifle. It could do with strip down and thorough cleaning. Unknown round count but it's down around 50 shots in my ownership. Small amount of damage to the anodized aluminum finish on the front cap. £120.00 Buyer collects CF44. RFD transfer at the buyers cost (both ends). Must have applicable slots on FAC.

As above, Remington 700 .223 rifle. 24" barrel with thread cut for a moderator. Predator Wildcat moderator also available in another sales thread. Bipod not included in sale. HS Precision aftermarket stock. Aftermarket upgraded trigger, possibly a Timney. I can remove the stock and provide clarification on request. There is some surface corrosion around the muzzle due to the last owner storing the rifle with the moderator attached but has no effect on the rifles accuracy. Unknown round count but the gun and barrel appears to be in good condition. If collected, I'll throw in what ammunition I have left. Approx 25 rounds mixed federal powershok and hornady vmax. I also have 20 used brass cases if of interest to the buyer. £250.00 Buyer collects CF44 S.Wales. RFD transfer available at the buyers cost (both ends).

As above, SAK moderator 1/2 UNF thread. Serialised on FAC only. Buyer must have appropriate slot for rimfire moderator. Has been lightly used on .17HMR rifle with less than 100 rounds total fired through it. Buyer collects CF44 S. Wales. £35

As above, ,17HMR rifle. 16" Barrel and 5 round magazine. Can be supplied with a SAK moderator in other thread. Rifle is very lightly used and in very good condition with less than 100 rounds fired since new. If collected, I'll throw in a brick and 1/4 of (approx 75 rounds) of 17g vmax. Bipod not included. Face to face collection in CF44 S. Wales preferred, must have appropriate slots on FAC. Can be RFD transferred at the buyers cost (both ends). £450.00