HantsRob
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Hi, thankyou OF for the balanced reply!
I am aware of the need of renewals before they run out and the business requirements trumping social. I mostly agree also, the only reservation being the argument of both paying for the same service. But I do get it, I promise.
The only reason I chased is because on the visit I was told it is typically 2 weeks for issue, and if it gets to a month then to call to check that it hadn't been lost in the post. The second chase was 4 days after the first as I had a funny 5 minutes with outlook and wasn't sure if it had sent properly.
So, being told it'll be reviewed in turn, I am now being quiet and trying super hard to wait patiently on the outside! (daily post check is still super exciting and disappointing!)
Thankyou for your postscript also, very kind!
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23 hours ago, JTaylor91 said:
Have they given you any indication how long it would take? For me the longest wait was after the visit. It took around 3-4 months after the visit for my cert to turn up a few years ago.
I have chased twice, the second reply was a very polite but blunt "it's in a pile for final signoff, yours will be addressed in turn". It was also clear not to chase again as nothing can actually be chased at this point, as it's just final managerial signoff.
It is possible they're prioritising renewals. It is possible they just have 500 in a pile and they're being more thorough recently. I don't know, and they don't share why.
I was always told 2-3 weeks from a home visit, so I guess I can take solace in knowing yours was months, so I don't check the post so eagerly every day! -
Week 4 after my home visit and I'm still staring at the letterbox 😞
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I'm on the fence about live game, partly because of the killing aspect (I do get the ecology side) but mostly the cost. I know there are beater days etc, But that's a lot of long days for a free shoot.
I guess I am very early in my adventure and it's too early for that side of it for me I think. -
Awesome I’m in the north west but plenty of grounds within 35-45 mins of each other!
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7 minutes ago, RoBeRt1990 said:
Not going anywhere bank holiday Monday as working but would be up for shooting some other time as I always shoot alone
If you’re local that would be cool.
always more fun to win graciously or lose terribly with company 🤣 where are you based?
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Ah I see. Spitfire is my closest but have been burning too much cash on lessons. Hopefully not for much longer!
if they ever fancy a new shot joining, I’m always up for company
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6 minutes ago, Ferretlurcher1970 said:
Are you near ower ?
It’s 35 mins drive I believe. Are you going Monday?
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Hey are there any fellow shooters in Hampshire? Just looking longer term at potentially forming some friendships to go to shoots as my friends don't shoot. Maybe we need a billy no mates (Billy no clays? lol) section to match people
Slightly more shorter term, I am hopefully days away from getting my certificate, home visit was 3.5 weeks ago. Looking for someone super kind to let me join them within travel distance of Hampshire on Bank Holiday monday to shoot? It will mean I would kindly ask you to share your gun, but happy to buy the bacon butty and brew as warmup? I believe Ower is shooting but again don't know anyone local!Longer term preferred but this weekend also would be so much fun too
Keep safe guys and dolls and enjoy your long weekend!
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"do you remember when...."
Funny how I instantly got taken back to where I was for 911 (dentist waiting room with my mum, and I asked her what awful movie would show that in the morning on TV). Same for Princess Di, I was coming off night shift and woke my parents to tell them.
I never knew the full significance til later but the fall of the Berlin wall. That's a biggie for me, as was the Challenger spaceship disaster. So sad.
The worst memory for me? The day I said goodbye to my dad going out to the Gulf war, and realising **** just got real. I think I aged a decade that day. For closure, he came back safely, but young me didn't know that at that point.
So many other points in my life....
Covid news - telling my team we need to prepare and being laughed at
Osama being shot - it's "over"
A culture change over gay people, and the adoption of LGB into LGBTQ+ etc to embrace everyone
The first Smartphones started by the Apple revolution. Telephony fundamentally changed. (don't cringe too hard at the old lighter app or beer drinking app!)
"Terrorism" took a new form like never before
Brexit
BLMFinally, all those fads..... Flossing. Gangnam style. Ice bucket challenge. Cinnamon challenge.
Now, looking forward.... we have some inevitable events coming that will shake the world.... the outcome of Afghan, ISIS, IS, Taliban etc. But one that I think will change the global landscape will be the death of Her Majesty The Queen. (I do not wish it however like taxes it is one of the inevitable things at some point).
(selfish note - seeing my boys become men, get married etc. So excited!)
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So the PCC for Hampshire may have her political agenda to show how Hampshire are leading/helping a review from the horrific dealings in Plymouth.
She has paid for that advertisement and it’s good to read she thinks Hampshire is a gold standard and other forces could learn etc, rather than discussing how changes are required or tightening/restricting more.
Her replies to comments seem to reflect the same and I think it’s good that it’s pragmatic and positive for the shooting community, whilst addressing issues in other county forces that don’t have a mandatory gp letter for example. It’s good the focus is shotcomings of other county forces rather than a focus on gun owners.Am I too naive to think this is a great news story? I appreciate she’s getting kudos for the constabularly she works with, but it appears to be a really neutral positive post that is pragmatically dealing with mitigating future risk, rather than penalising the wider shooting community.
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Evening all
I see there have been posts in the past. I am looking at Greenfields of Salisbury selling a 28g Jocker for 189/thou (they have a cheaper "Trust" cart at 185 so this isn't the cheapest)
I'm curious as to how they reclaim the lead? I have seen a shoot in Italy that uses like a parachute under the clays to catch lead, is this what Jocker does? Just seems like a good way to recycle lead.
I am hoping that they shoot well, many people from this forum spoke kindly of them
Is recycling lead the future?....
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1 hour ago, B391 said:
I have a lovely Remmy 11-87 Premier Skeet I want to sell but just not sure about the risks.
mmmm postal order waiting buddy, PM me your address!
How does it shoot by the way, I've seen it in a local shop and wondering if I should go for a cheap new semi, or a second hand branded wooden semi.
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15 hours ago, Fellside said:
All good point HantsRob. However, it is understood that the family alerted Devon and Cornwall re his mental health concerns. The opportunity to investigate was served on a silver platter.
I think we will learn more as time goes on. The truth will out as they say.
Indeed, however the word investigate is what's important there. Hearsay is dangerous, and reliability of intel is graded also. I don't disagree that it shouldn't have raised a flag, but then we don't know if an investigation did go forth but someone in a position of medical authority said no concerns at this time. The truth will indeed out.
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Dare I attempt to be pro-police here for a moment, and say that the usual multi-agencies may not have offered the Police the information that was required that would clearly give cause for concern?
An FEO can make decisions only on the information presented on his available systems. If GP, NHS, MH teams etc didn't pass information on, it won't be on PNC or local Police database.I think we need to give the Police a bit more credit here, and whilst I stand to be corrected in an authorative review, that the Police may have little blame.
To me it sounds like better cross-agency information is shared, but the issue with data protection and GDPR etc, is exactly how much can/should be shared before it's against someones rights. Similarly to laws meaning Police can't keep fingerprints and DNA for more than 6 months unless you're successfully prosecuted, keeping everyones prints would mean more crimes solved, but it's against a persons rights.
If D&C implement changes and is seen as gold standard, other forces will follow. It is very much the case of Policing, that a county force will be seen as gold standard, and other forces will copy best practice.
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1 hour ago, old man said:
Nope, sorry to disagree they are just guns, to make them into weapons IMHO comes in the intent from him to use them as such?
Legally it is a weapon. A shotgun is a long barrelled firearm. Its creation is to shoot metal pellets with the created purpose to "kill". This may be used for clays only, but by its very creation it is a weapon. Same as a slingshot, bow and arrow, or catapult.
What you are thinking of is when something becomes an offensive weapon. You're thinking S1(4) of the prevention of crime act:
"Section 1(4) defines an offensive weapon as “any article made or adapted for use for causing injury to the person or intended by the person having it with him for such use by him or by some other person”.
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12 hours ago, ditchman said:
try storing your cartridges in the airing cupboard.....
dont be put off buying cartridges that have the word "Express" on them....some express cartriges fire very smooth and sweet.....
Great tip on newly bought carts, I hadn't thought of that!
TBF, my local school uses Lyalvale, and they've always seemed to have treated me ok, I have no negativity against them, but my instructor hates them! That said everyone slated the Amber carts, and I thought they shot beautifully
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Sometimes you need the ****storm to settle before people are willing to listen.
I will put on my rose tinted glasses and say that I hope those discussions start once the understandably strong emotions have settled down, where all parties can have a fair say.
If you research into some of the records in parliament on things on gun law, you may be surprised how many people are pro-gun.
I wouldn't mind doing tougher applications such as FAC, although the hassle of asking permission to change guns etc would be quite the inconvenience. That said, I have far worse issues in my world, and would do what it takes. It would also stop impulse buying because something is pretty
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Hull superfast are banned at one of my local venues. I believe noise related.
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1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:
HR
What are you trying to do?
Why are you so keen to have a clean cartridge?
As Ditchy says, use the cheapest you can regularly buy, they work if you are doing your bit.
We have been through the harder hitting supposedly faster shells thing several times over the years.
A gun that fits and an understanding of choke/cartridge performance will allow you to shoot to your ability.
Good point, well presented.
As a newbie, I need to get used to my gun, ideally without too much bruising to my shoulder (which I had recently and it made the last 20 clays really un-fun!). So, removed the thump, so I can focus on learning. I've not tried many shells, and I have no authority or knowledge to say what's good except for the 5-6 types I've shot. So at my newbie level, something that doesn't leave a tonne of **** in the barrels seems good!
Also, to me (and I may be wrong), lots of **** in the barrel is unburnt or badly burned powder, meaning the shot is inefficient? I don't know.... maybe I am too focused on an unimportant element.
For a new shooter, it's really hard to navigate the complexity of brands and loads! 24g Amber (taking colour out) vs 24g gamebore load. I have no idea, hence partly the question. I *can* afford £250 a thou rather than 200, but without the knowledge of why and probably experience then I am probably not going to see any difference. I guess my question is also "as a newbie are all cheap carts equal, til I become more competent".
I'm not sold on subsonic and superfast.
Choke....well TC, I have spent hours reading about choke, and as it is very opinion based rather than fact based (I have yet to read an unbiased post in general) then I am as lost as I was day 1. I at least understand the mechanics of it!
44 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:Buy British
Where the pricepoint affords it, I will gladly. If Empire had a better price, I would be going for them. As a newbie, the extra price and my poor skillset seems pointless at this stage. I would love to try 10 of their carts to see how they fire, to see if they worked for me Maybe I'll bump into a Hampshire bod who'll have a pair I can try one day. Until then, it comes down to bottom line.
24 minutes ago, marsh man said:I used Gamebore velocity for a while and I found them ideal for decoying , gentle on the shoulder and if you are shooting straight they will certainly do the job and at a good price , the fishing tackle shop near mine that were selling them had to order 10k at a time and the demand wasn't no longer there so they stopped selling them , pity really as they were a good shell.
Yup, shot 75 today and for £20-25 more than a cheap TT1, that kind of was the point. I know it's only 2.5p more a shot, but pennies add up.
How would you or TC (or anyone else) rate TT1 Vs gamebore velocity?
Separate Q - what do I get for £25 more as a newbie?Genuine trying to learn Q
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I've tried to reply to this thread a few times. I've deleted each time.
My opinion is simply that all these posts will be read by news groups, police, and other authorities. For that reason I have decided to not post anything except I hope there is a pragmatic answer from all the different angles, from medical reporting and frequency through to not punishing the many for what we can all agree was a troubled young man, that does NOT represent the licenced many.
Very much like when a Police officer is caught doing something wrong, it shouldn't reflect as the rest of the force being bad.
Simply: he was *NOT* 'one of us'.
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18 hours ago, clangerman said:
having seized my firearms i can confirm for a FACT the police carried out the most extensive checks possible gp friends family nobody was of limits so with no stone left unturned how did this chap get his firearms back?
The only FACT is that you cannot fairly compare your situation to someone else, even if it was the same county force.
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I'm not sure I'd want to be stopped by the police and them seeing that on the back seat!
I really like the neat wiring. That makes my OCD happy! ❤️
Geronimo.
in Off Topic
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I must have had my head in the sand.
This is the news for anyone like me who was confused:
Geronimo the alpaca is killed after four-year battle to save him fails | Animal welfare | The Guardian
4 years?!