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  2. Wanted: 2+1 12g semi-automatic shotgun

    in Wanted

    Posted · Edited by HantsRob

    4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    Blimey sounds like you've been here years!   :lol:

    Learnt all I needed to know from 3 hours on the Island ;)

    Absorb everything, fact check, and try not to be too cynical. Not doing too bad of a blag job for someone that's shot less than 6 months eh lol I'm more like the old smell you can't get rid of 

    Oh, bought my first actual red cartridges today. Feel proper grown up ;) 

  4. 3D printing - design wanted

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    Posted

    Primarily I am after a 3d print file for a 12G semi auto safety flag. Just a simple U shape one would be great but open to what someone else may have :)

    On the topic of 3d printing, I am not sure if anything else practicable could be printed (and certainly not a firearm!), I doubt it would work for anything like snap caps etc. 

    Just looking for some 3d printing love for anything creative or useful :D

  6. DJI Mavic Pro

    in Other Sales

    Posted

    I'd love one of these, that price is a bit too rich for me.

    I can honestly say the video footage is amazing with this little bird, and has some funky cool features for doing automated manoeuvres so you can stand and enjoy it doing its thing.

    Definitely a great drone. I believe the laws changed Dec 1st and you need to be aware of restrictions to this listed device as it's over the 500g threshold. This means no filming within 50m of uninvolved people, which removes a LOT of filming chances. This is up to you as to if you obey.
    I believe they were looking to licence people also, but don't know the current situation.

    But, I say that just so a buyer is aware and there's plenty of opportunity to enjoy this device. It is an AMAZING device, fantastic video, and an awful lot of fun to fly with really high quality stabilisation. I am not knocking the device! :)

     

    Ace, I'd only offer you a much lower price, hopefully someone else will see this great deal and get it bought :)

  7. SGC renewal - Medical form cost?

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    25 minutes ago, Old Boggy said:

    But surely, if the surgery has a month to produce the information, then if you get the information yourself from your surgery, it could still take that month, or have I missed something? 

    I was not aware that Medcert offered a 10% discount and missed out on that ???

    OB

    No, you can give access to your NHS app/records I believe as a delegate, so you are in essence providing access to your own records so it'll be ready in 3 days. To be fair it's quite lucrative. You don't have to get your records yourself as you're thinking!

    I didn't say Medcert offered 10%. But on their homepage they say:
    "Are you a member of a shooting organisation? Don’t forget your discount code at checkout."

    and also
    "    If you are a member of a shooting organisation you may be able to benefit from a discount that they have negotiated with us - check your membership magazine or organisation's website for details."

  8. SGC renewal - Medical form cost?

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted · Edited by HantsRob

    5 minutes ago, Old Boggy said:

    On that basis, you are obtaining the information for them just to send it off to the police. Something you could do yourself. Seems a bit of a rip off to me.

    With Medcert, they obtain all the information on your behalf and send it off to the police for the same price.

    OB

    Medicert could take a lot longer than a month, as a surgery has a month to produce. Then there's the turnaround time. 

    Whilst I am not endorsing the other place, if they turn around in 3 days then you just save a lot of time even if it seems money for old rope. If the books open and it's first come first served after being closed for 2 months, I know I'd rather have my request in ASAP rather than a month down the road.

     

    It's worth noting that shotgunmedicals gives a £10 discount to BASC and CPSA members, and Medicert also state they may offer a discount with your shooting association. It'd be interesting if anyone knows of a Medicert discount via a club or association (without providing the discount code for fairness).

  9. Longthorne and TGS

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Fellside said:

    I experimented with 21 gram clay cart’s when they first came on the scene - pattern tests and sporting clays etc. In summary they were pants. OK for close stuff inside 25 yards. They were therefore fine for skeet. I found that more distant targets needed much tighter chokes than usual, therefore reducing pattern width and hitting potential. 

    I don’t necessarily think that the TGS chap is sponsored by Hull. The strategy of these You Tube channels is to maintain ‘noise level’ and interest to maximise exposure. In other words they’ll talk about any old product. Unfortunately, the TGS chap, like so many You tubers, has tonnes of enthusiasm and virtually zero presentation skills. If someone took him by the scruff and taught him some basics, he might be half descent. 

     

    10 seconds in, Hull is literally on the screen. His shooting buddy is wearing a hull vest, 14 seconds in they show the box, then again discuss this specific cart (that they've shot most of this year), and 1:44 in they show the pretty Hull box again. Then discuss the cart at 4:10.

    If he's not sponsored or heavily discounted I'd be surprised. I am guessing he was sponsored for 2021, will be interesting to see if he changes this year.

     

    5 minutes ago, buze said:

    The last batch of compx I recently bought was pretty horrible in terms on QA, some carts were 'bulgy' and you had to push them down the barrel, they were also very 'boomy' and dirty. Not sure if they changed the production somewhere, but I had bought 1000 and returned 500 when I manage to get some (frankly better all around) Eley Select.

    One of my local grounds only let you shoot what they sell, so I have a load of CompX. They're not an FBlu, but they shoot fair but are a bit thumpy and dirty compared to some other similarly priced. 

    I'm trying some Lyalvale English Sporters tomorrow. Fingers crossed on those red bad boys.

     

    1 hour ago, Old farrier said:

    21 grams is good if your good enough but you will always be wondering would you have done better with another 7 grams of shot 

    it’s just another variable 

    As a new shooter, I'll take any advantage! I am just surprised he's advised 21g. BUT then I just re-watched and the site has a 21g limit, which is where I mis-interpreted first time! But he does say nothing wrong with them, which if you're on the target he's right. I am guessing 21g is quieter than 28g?

  10. Longthorne and TGS

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    His recent video pushed the Hull compX 21g, and was pushing the angle of ‘you don’t need 28g, and 21g is perfect’ and it felt too sales pitchy rather than potentially his genuine opinion. 
    I know they’re never honest about negatives of guns and I know he’s getting sponsored in cartridges, I’m just surprised he was pressing down the 21g is great route. 
    Im not sure of the Hull angle if there is one to press down the 21g route for promotion, maybe a higher profit margin? Or maybe Johnny’s genuine opinion is 21g is better than 28g on clays. 

  11. mr

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Scully said:

    🙂 Seriously. Good luck with your applications. If you grow to be as passionate and protective about shooting as many on here ( for some it’s just a hobby, but for others it’s a way of life ) are, then hopefully you’ll understand why some are reluctant to welcome someone wanting to make a video for global release on a subject they haven't the faintest inkling or understanding of, or experience. 
    If it was a university dissertation or similar I could understand it, but it isn’t.
    Of all the possible topics you could have chosen, you haven’t even stated why you chose this one, or a reason why you want to do this. 
    I would suggest you get your tickets, go out and enjoy this most fabulous of sports, make lots of friends, gain some experience, and then come back to it with all the experience that that will gain you. 
    You will also learn that there is quite a big difference between what the law states, how it is interpreted, and what actually happens. 

     

    I'd say that is the most sensible and sane information I've read on this thread. I felt that coming from your heart, and is the best advice this thread has given. 

    +1.

  12. Park Lodge

    in Clay Pigeon Shooting

    Posted

    To be fair I really enjoy Spitfire in Hampshire, but last time we had over 20 no birds out of our 120 card. I did tell them about that and what stands didn't fire, and they offered to top up the card. Not the best, but I can't expect any more.

    I shot a comp today at Owls Lodge which was going well til a small injury. In my shooting and waiting I probably saw 600-800 clays, and genuinely only 3 no birds. Thanks to Richard and the team for making an enjoyable day, and the site minus high footfall areas (I was competitor 117 and was there 25 mins into the comp, and plenty more behind!) and yet the ground still looked good.

    Sometimes the extra pennies pays for a better site. Sometimes..... not.

  13. mr

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    2 hours ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    So first off here Im not a gun activist I agree with every law that we have that attends to guns and most other things 

    One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. By saying you're not a gun activist wouldn't mean you may not be seen as one. The advice I believe is partly be careful what you share, as it could be mis-interpreted. (or in some peoples cases, interpreted correctly)

     

    2 hours ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    After thinking about it over night I've decided not to add ammo information into it as there is so much to it and I wouldn't want to get anything wrong 

    Actually, you could get better credit by explaining the nature of FAC ammo, that it depends on what the purpose is you have your firearms for, and what quantities you may need. The fact it varies on a case by case example shows that forces limit the amount of ammo allowed to the purpose it's been licenced for. That way you don't need to know quantities, but explains why you can't answer "how much".

     

    2 hours ago, Old farrier said:

    I hope I’m wrong 

    I hope so also, or I may have egg on my face! 

    That said, you've not been wrong from my experience yet....

    1 hour ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    You all just seem to be going way to deep into this. 

    And yet were still going strong :)

    Lee, I am going to step out of this conversation now. I have attempted to give you the full benefit of the doubt to this point, and some of the comments have come to you with concern from people who have shot longer than I've lived and range from good shots to triple A shooters. 

    If you have specific additional questions I'd suggest a new topic with explicit new questions that you can't find an answer to following a google/bing/AskJeeves search, and like your other thread you may find people are happy to answer. 

    As for this one, with no finger pointing, it's degraded to a point I am stepping out of it. I'd ask maybe you take the higher ground on this one and let this thread naturally conclude, and hope maybe others do likewise. It's not good for the sport or forum, we are all here for the love and passion of this amazing sport. 

    1 hour ago, Old farrier said:

    would you have to pay royalties if you just took a picture of the net ?

    If it's not monetised (I haven't checked his YT account but I suspect under 1000 subscribers based on the comments on this thread) then you can use open source pictures, or most photos as long as you reference them in the comments. But, typically you'd have to ask permission from the photo owner to use/reproduce that image on a new feed, and potentially reference it also. This doesn't necessarily mean having to pay royalties, just ensuring the correct owner is identified. Royalties may come into it if that's agreed pre-production. 

    Him asking for photos of peoples guns is actually a relatively smart move here, as then he would have full permission from the IP owner to use the images, and to agree how they are or aren't referenced.

    A monetised channel then relies on how the ads play, as well as being tiered based on subscribers, how much of the adverts they watch or if they skip, and how much overall videos the subscribers watch. It's a weirdly complex model. 

  15. mr

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    32 minutes ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    Not the UK gun laws sorry..

    but owning guns in the UK is taboo or it is in my limited experience 

    I would disagree with this Lee. I think the correct thing would be to say many people are unaware of what can be legally owned and shot in the UK, regardless of the regulations on some of them of where they can be shot. Also that handguns were banned following a horrific massacre in Dunblane, yet people still seem to be able to own handgun style guns shot at a gunrange. 

    Is it naivety or not publicised enough? Maybe. But it isn't taboo. To be fair I thought that handguns were fully banned til I saw some of the workarounds to allow people to shoot at a range, where a barrel length is greater than 30cm. Again, there's far more to it than that, including calibre and restrictions. 

    As for powder load..... a quick check of this forum provided!:

     

    If a shotgun cartridge is classed as small arms ammunition then the limit is around 10,000.

    See link http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/tradingstandards/business/licensing.asp

     

    info pasted: Explosives

    If you keep shotgun cartridges or fireworks for sale you will probably require registration under the Manufacture and Storage of Explosives Regulations 2005. If you keep ammunition for small arms you may keep up to 15 kilogrammes of powder in the form of cartridges (at 1.62 grammes or 25 grains of powder per cartridge you can keep up to 9,260 without registration; at 2.72 grammes or 42 grains of powder per cartridge you can keep 5,500 cartidges without registration. The storage of other products such as motor vehicle air bag inflators or nail gun cartridges also requires registration but up to 5 kilogrammes can be stored without registration.

     

    Not 100% clear as it starts talking about shotgun cartridges and then swithces to mentioning small arms ammunition.

     

    Edit:

     

    with most things like this it is best to use any info on the internet as a guide and then check out the facts by looking at the actual legislation.

    see The Control of Explosive Substances 1991 regulations it seems up to 15Kg of smokeless powder is permitted in a private premises when loaded into small arms ammunition. Just looked at a slab of Hull Special Pigeon which are marked with UN 0012, which appears on schedule 1 as cartridges, small arms UN0012. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1991/1531/schedule/1/made

     

    (reference: 

     

  16. mr

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    2 hours ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    I have pretty thick skin

    If the government website on guns isn't correct then what is? 

    To be fair you're still here so I agree you're thick skinned. Or, baiting, but I am more than happy to give the benefit of the doubt hence why I tried to answer you in the first place.

    The information held in legislation and government websites are correct, however some rules are open to interpretation. If you've seen the recent changes of some forces to requiring a medical form on application of a licence and renewals, this is an example of that interpretation force by force. Then add in for FAC what may or may not be allowed, it is down to requirements of the shooter so cannot be prescriptive in law.

    There are things that are prescribed in law, such as storage of FAC ammunition, but it is not there for "standard" shotgun cartridges. Until.... you discuss cartridges that are only allowed by FAC holders.

    Then you have a shotgun that holds a max of 3 cartridges, above that it needs an FAC, even though it's still a shotgun.

    Maybe you could ask questions with your reasoned thought and the source, and if you have misread/misinterpreted or need clarity, we could help?

     

    1 hour ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    I will be taking a factual journalistic approach while making the video if they want to come after me for that there's a big problem with this country. 

    UK gun laws are so taboo we should be talking about it more and inviting new people into conversations about it. 

    The comments made are referenced here regarding video making:

    British gun activist loses firearms licences | Daily Mail Online

    I'm also interested in your use in the word taboo there. I am guessing you meant something else.... The law by large is in a couple of bits of legislation, and even if you google "how many shotgun cartridges can I have in my house" there's a mixed variety of replies, one of which is a discussion in the house of commons I believe which also referenced 10,000 cartridges.

    4 hours ago, leesmithyt33 said:

    I'm making a YouTube video on uk gun laws and I wasn't sure if there was a hard limit on fac ammo

    so 10,000 oz of black powder would be the legal limit you can posses without a explosives license? (10,000 shells at 1oz each) (For sgc) I didn't know that so its something to add. 

    ok, this is something that some of the others are worried about, is that words can be misinterpreted. Let me help you on this one above!

    First off, give this a read:
    Beginners guide to Shotgun Cartridges (elliotrobertsshooting.com)
    and
    Alliant Powder - Shotshell

    One of the most common clay cartridge will be a 28g load, usually of 7 or 7.5 shot. 28g=1 Oz, so the reference to 10,000 1oz cartridges is NOT the amount of nitrouscellulose powder, but rather how they are classifying the amount of powder to fire a standard 28g load of 7 shot, for example. Also at this point, clarify that the powder inside a shotgun cartridge is a propellant and not an explosive. Black powder as Old Farrier referenced (and is an interesting topic in its own right) is an explosive.

    I don't know the amount of powder per cartridge, I don't home load.

    You need to look at the NEQ, I had to look this up. I won't explain, it's all here:

    Store shotgun cartridges safely and securely - how to do it (shootinguk.co.uk)

    Also, consider not just firearms act, but things like HSE for explosives. In addition, for "home loaders" who make their own cartridges or bullets, you then have percussion caps or primers (not the same thing), and that is a different thing to the nitrocellulose powder. Have a read here for example:

    HSE Explosives - Storing explosives

     

    That's a load of stuff to consider, all easily google'able. It just helps to get a base term of reference. 

    Good luck. 

  17. mr

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    Hi Lee

    Your answer isn't that simple, as you haven't really stated what you want. A simple search here will give you the approximation for 12g, which is around 10,000 before you need an explosives licence, which is completely separate to FAC and SGC:

     

     

    You haven't specified if you want info for SGC, or FAC, or what breakdown you want. Also, what load of cartridge, 21g? 28g? More?

    Then you're looking at FAC for bullets which is completely different to your SGC, and will also vary depending on what you're approved based on what you are planning on shooting. I believe storage limits will vary depending on what firearms you plan on buying, how frequently you plan on shooting etc.

    SGC is fairly simple, so around 10,000. For FAC, the answer is genuinely "depends on what you've asked for and why you need it".

    Happy to be corrected by someone else if I am wrong :)

    You may want to ask your local county firearms licencing team, they could tell you what that county typically does on a FOI request.

  18. Longthorne and TGS

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    To be fair as a newish shooter I've found a lot of videos online to be really quite horrific. Some of Johnny's early stuff was a bit cringe, and like most gun videos every single one is the best thing ever. Johnny does give a few down sides mind. I don't like the Holt videos as it's just gushing, but I actually enjoyed this video as well as his trip to Italy. 

    That stock, grip, and checkering was like nothing I've seen. Simply beautiful. I do wonder what discount he got as that's an amazing promo video! 

    I do wonder if/when titanium barrels will ever become a thing, from the other video. 
    Finally, surely better than one of the competing channels that just oozes over guns then shows you it being shot, but the camera being so awful you can't see what they're shooting :D

     

    4 hours ago, bigroomboy said:

    I didn't have a great experience with the shop but I think what they are doing on YouTube is great for the sport. High quality videos that are balanced and informative. Thats how you get people hooked on field sports. I would love a longthorne, they look great and well engineered in England which is a rarity. Unfortunately it's never going to happen, but I wouldn't turn a free one down. 

    I went in there last summer after their flood damage. I didn't feel particularly welcome, and found it odd they had buckets of carts that were water damaged but not for sale, but on the shop floor. The sales people made me feel unwelcome as I didn't have a SGC, and it cost them sales that day that I bought elsewhere in the end. I agree though that they're doing vids that promote the sport well, and particularly enjoyed the clay tour to see other grounds, even if some of the content was a touch cringe. 

    1 hour ago, enfieldspares said:

    I don't know. I admire the owner of Longthorne's undoubted skill and his courage to set up a gunmaking business in the UK. But would I want one? I don't know. Certainly the choice of wood made by the TGS man isn't what I'd have chosen. I like the stocks of my guns fairly plain and with the grain straight through. I've never favoured this fetish for burrs and all that. 

    I want to feel the kidney checkering and the grip on that gun though, I'm surprised we don't see more of it.

    Far too much gun for me though, give me another 10-15 years of shooting at the very least. Even then, if I want something pretty to look at there are some older guns with gorgeous engraving I can admire for a lot less.

  19. SGC renewal - Medical form cost?

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    1 hour ago, bruno22rf said:

    They do if you give written consent, besides most people have access to their own medical history- I can download mine and send a copy.

    That's then given consent to an authorised third party, but that again will typically only be to what they require rather than carte blanche. Also to my knowledge there are no constables in my local firearms team, only civvies. Whilst they are on the payroll of the PCC and could be seen as Police, they are not police officers. 

    Also you'd have to be careful about the governance of downloading your own records and forwarding, as that is open to tampering. Who'd consider doing that? Probably someone with something to hide!

    My comment was about the Police not having medical access as standard. If you have given consent then it is still governed by rules of what is necessary and proportionate.

  20. Advice Required Please

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    It's a £2 grand gun, give or take. It is going to potentially give you years of love and happiness.

    If it's your only gun you may upgrade in the future. If it's not your only gun, I'd say buy it for its beauty rather than future proofing, if you get 10 years of fun it will have paid for itself and will still hold significant value.

    It will still shoot steel and if you are moving to birds in the future, you may upgrade or get another gun.

     

    My money is on heart on this one ❤️ 

  21. SGC renewal - Medical form cost?

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    1 hour ago, bruno22rf said:

    No doubt BASC are all over this, having to pay for something the Police surely have access to?(😄). 

    The police do not have access to your GP or NHS held medical information.

    1 hour ago, bruno22rf said:

    They will be moving heaven and earth to ensure that the shooting community is not being shafted, once the xmas party has finished and all the MP's they give free shooting to have had their noses in the trough.

    If they nationalise or standardise the price, I am pretty sure I read a figure on BASC site suggesting a £95-100 cost for a medical report to "take into account and average out the time it takes to do this", so we will as a group end up paying more.

    I was "happy" at £45 for my report to say "nothing relevant" and a signature.

  25. Hampshire Constabulary Suspending Firearms Grant Application Service

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted · Edited by HantsRob

    29 minutes ago, clangerman said:

    everyone else struggles on to provide a service bar SLACKERS! 

    As HantsPol are one of the leaders in SGC licencing and leading the reviews and changes I don't think that's necessary to be rude, or to assume slacking off. 

    I appreciate to many it may feel like it'd be easier to suspend than cancel, but who's to say some of the team don't have COVID or are extremely poorly right now? Sometimes resilience needs to be maintaining the existing service, rather than taking on new applicants.

     

    #BeKind

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