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In my Dads Shed I had three Vellocette Venoms 500cc, a Trials Triumph Cub and BSA C15 clubracer. I was buying a Mini 1275 and told to get rid!! I virtually gave the Venoms away to get the room, ive seen some recently at £27,000 each.
Its only Money
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In the past I’ve found that you can get migrating birds drop on a field for a few days then leave just as quick. Take advantage of the day they are feeding. I’ve been out twice so far after my summer break, birds on the field the days before and when we arrive and just leave.
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Well done, a day you will both remember.
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Nice to see you both out and enjoying yourselves, well done, thanks for reporting.
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A brilliant day and a brilliant result.
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That answers the question then, thanks
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During a conversation with another shooter today , he commented on the lack of young birds. It made me think that due to the extreme heat we had this summer would that affect the eggs or the hydration of the fledglings in the nests. I delivered six hundred birds today and when bagging up I did not have any young birds which prompted me to ask this question. Over to the massive??
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Since returning from holiday I’ve been out twice, initially to try and prevent some geese feeding on some seeded fields. The other session I reported on which produced six birds from beneath and oak tree. I have watched two flightlines that are over my house and they both end up on some local land banked fields a which have a good number of oak trees and no shooting allowed.
I believe the majority of birds are in the woods feeding on acorns. I’ve not seen much rape on my permissions so it may be a lean winter or I will have to do some door knocking mentioning I’m a pensioner!!!! -
I have a copy in Greece and re read it every year . It amazes me that I still find little snippets of information that I missed.
He is the Master of the Game, using his military experience and training to defeat our quarry . -
Good report, well done. Nice to see that you have them still on stubbles , I’m not able to find a good number at present although I’ve just received a request for six hundred. So I will have to keep looking. Again well done Daz.
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Following the return from my holiday I received a request for thirty fresh pigeons. So out I went looking I was amazed by the lack of birds on the stubbles and directed drilled fields. The only birds I could find were under Oak trees , on inspection they were loaded with acorns and the recent strong winds had made a few drop. The feeding spell for acorns is approx ten minutes and seeing them on the field edges is a minute proportion of the the Oak tree population. I eventually found a field with a good number all round a thirty acre field under trees, so I set up between two trees with the wind off my back. I had no decoys but within two minutes the first bird past within range and became my first decoy. This shot sent approx fifty birds into the air from around the field. I shot from 14.00 to 18.00 and ended up with six birds as nothing returned. As the title states the amount of natural food available will keep them off the crops for a good time. I have mentioned in the past that my main shooting grounds are in the ancient “ Forest of Arden” which is predominantly Oak trees, this has a double effect it feeds the birds and keeps them off the crops and also the woods feed migrating birds from the cold north and holds them in the area.
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Not able to comprehend that she has passed, always around all my life.
Rest in peace and thank you .
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Well done.
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Well done.
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Is my memory that bad ?? It was reported at the time that the three girls sold family jewellery the buy the tickets to fly to the war zone. No mention of any other country involved??
The “ wokes” will try to get her back by any means forgetting the deaths caused by Isis.
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Well done, great report, thanks for posting.
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Great report, well done.
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16 minutes ago, marsh man said:
I am sure that is, and was the same reason that most of us shot Corvids to maintain the rights to go Pigeon shooting , and would it be fair to say , like me you have never asked to go Corvid shooting ? , I have done it , and in my early days a fair bit of shooting Corvids , but in those far off early days I was hungry to shoot whatever came my way ( a bit like some people do today ) it was also a early introduction to the art of field craft , which was a good help when the perms came rolling in to shoot Wood Pigeons , and yes like you I have been given cartridges to shoot Corvids , I do believe a lot of long standing farmers understand it is a costly exercise in shooting Corvids and because we get nothing out of it , both in sport and finance are willing to help by providing the cartridges .
One thing I would like to ask you P C is , on your travels of late ( Pigeon shooting , not on your holiday in Greece , have you noticed the amount of Pigeons shooters still shooting were less , about the same , or more ? , this could be a unfair question as we are at the time of the year when the stubble shooters are normally out in force, and once the stubble's are pulled up they go and hibernate until the same time next year .
Before I left the country, I noticed an increase in the amount of shooters due to stubbles. Over the passed year it has become the fashion to have multiple shooters on the same farm at the same time. Also we have conflict of interests as we shoot for the farmer and his son also gets shooters on the farm. If we see other shooters we normally move on but inform the farmer that we have turned out to his request and other shooters are there ( guilt trip) which gives us sole rights the following weekend.
when I do meet other shooters the first question I ask is what do you do with your pigeons, mostly say I don’t shoot many and eat them which confirms they are not a threat. They will never turn out in the cold winter months. Bunny_blaster is a threat as he is getting too good!!! To his credit he obtains a lot of permissions.
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14 hours ago, Old farrier said:
It’s very hard these days with the general license/ pest control
im happy to shoot pigeon for farmers at my cost time cartridges and fuel I also prefer to pickup fallen birds as I eat them
now the corvids fall into a different category I can’t eat them and they create a disposal problem I still like to pick them up
when asked about shooting them by a particular farmer I asked him if he spent time and money planting a crop that would be worth less than it cost him to put it in and harvest with a end product that was inedible
his reply was no it’s bad business only a fool would do that and total waste of time money and effort
With that in mind I applied the same logic to shooting his crows and rooks he came round the next day with 2 slabs of cartridges and told me to say when I had used them
I understand it’s pest control not sport maybe I get my sport satisfaction from finding the right flight field and putting the birds into a decoy pattern
I’ve always considered corvids shooting as a lost leader to gain or maintain pigeon shooting rights, I did have one farmer give me a slab of cartridges that were left over from the farm game shoot. He informed me that they go through the books as “ Pest Control”
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1 hour ago, marsh man said:
I fully agree with what you are saying , we see a lot of full sets of decoying gear on the other sales and I see a lot at the auctions I go to , a lot of people pack it in for various reasons , one could be it is not as easy as it look and it is a never ending learning curve , I look up to P C as one the top decoyer's on the forum , I don't think he would mind me saying that he knows a hell of a lot about Pigeon decoying but he will never know the lot there is to know , no one will , we still can't make out why they will decoy one day in text book fashion and then on the next day you can set up the exactly same pattern and the Pigeons will give them a wide berth , the difference with P C and someone who is fairly new to the sport will know something is not right and alter his pattern to suit and then if it is not quite right he will go a adjust it till he is happy with it , where the other person will happily sit there hopping it will get better by its self .
Also it takes a lot of time to get the land owners trust and he would be weary in letting strangers on there land with a shotgun , a lot of land I go on have been for more years than I care to remember , where I spend 99% of my time now started in 1965 when me and my brother first went beating , we then got our first day ever shooting Pheasants , or should I say shooting at Pheasants on the beaters day , we then got four Saturdays roost shooting in February , then when we first got into Pigeon decoying this was the place to get in , we must had done things right as we went wherever we asked to go , time moved on and 45 years ago a vacancy came up for a jobbing bricklayer , I applied for this job and after a few interviews I got it , I was there till I retired 15 years ago and work is just a memory , all I do now is attend all the shoots and shoot Pigeons for the rest of the year , they have been very good to me over the years and there would be a good possibility that if I could no longer afford the cartridges ect they would help me out rather than think about letting someone else to do the crop protection .
Very true MM
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When I started shooting pigeons with some commitment thirty plus years ago the situation was Russian cartridges were £70 a thousand and shot birds were sold to butchers for Ten Bob ( 50p) in the Birmingham Bull Ring Market to satisfy the demand for post war food flavours .
Following the demise of the home market birds were sold to be canned or processed in Europe.
Over the years the price for shot birds has dropped to one shilling (5p) and the destinations of these dealers covers the four corners of the UK.I deem myself to be very lucky that currently I’m receiving my old Ten Bob (50p) for steel shot birds, I am a game registered food handler but my cartridges are £320 a thousand we are competing with a large number of shooters.
I’m no expert ( A drip under pressure) but when you consider the food protein of a shot pigeon at 50p it is a bargain, but you can’t afford to miss many!!!!!
When will the treehuggers realise that we have a limited amount of land to grow our food on this island and if they all want to be vegans and veggies the lowly pigeon will be one of there main contenders for the same crops so why not take advantage of the resource and allow our supposedly starving/food bank users some real meat??
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Well done.
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That’s what it’s all about, enjoying the sport and pleasing the farmer. Last week end we had between us 800 pigeons which caused a great deal of problems keeping them fresh and freezing. The farmers had phoned us to carry out the shooting on standing crops with stubble close by so we were committed to help out. To be honest it was not pleasurable shooting just mechanical but it had to be done.
I’m writing this sitting on the balcony in Greece and enjoying the rest and the beer, well done Marsh Man and thanks for reminding us what it’s all about. -
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Were have all the pigeons gone?
in Talk From The Field
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DB went out roost shooting for crows following a request from the farmer and dropped off 29 pigeons that also came in. All were rammed with acorns, so they are in the woods.