Changes to General Licences...Woodpigeons etc

[Breastman]

yep

 

BUH?! My S1 shotgun was granted on the back of pigeon control last year?? Its now exclusively used for PSG so . . . . . did i make a fraudulent variation to my FLD last year??

 

Mark

[David BASC]

The wording on the current OGL - re prevention of dammage reads as follows:

 

'semi-automatic weapon' means any weapon which is not prohibited by section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968 as amended and which has a magazine capable of holding more than two rounds of ammunition, where the depression of the trigger ejects a single shot, each subsequent shot requiring a further depression of the trigger;

 

The wording on the draft for 2010 is

 

“semi-automatic weapon” means any weapon which is not prohibited by section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968 as amended and which has a magazine capable of holding more than two rounds of ammunition, where the depression of the trigger discharges a single shot and reloads the next, each subsequent shot requiring a further depression of the trigger;

 

David

[mikee]

The bit about not selling pigeons was a bit of a cock up – someone seems to have got a bit mixed up with the legislation about not selling shot wild geese that’s all. We spoke with NE on this yesterday morning and they assured us this would be taken off, so for those that sell the odd pigeon or two you can relax.

 

Any more questions? Just let me know

 

David

 

does this mean the ban on selling canada geese will remain in place, well i for one hope it does, i was horrified when they were classed as "vermin" for the want of a better word, at least it will prevent market gunning, if they are to be sold then BASC should be on the case of this straight away

 

 

mikee

[Malc]

I see "has a magazine capable of holding more than two rounds of ammunition", actually the same mistake as last year.

 

What a load of hassle just because someone cannot be bothered to engage their brain while writing the draft document.

[HW682]

Dear all,

 

Just to confirm what I have posted, here is a statement from NE, just released:

 

NE is aware of the issue and will be working with Defra and BASC to resolve it. It will be resolved in advance of the licences coming into force on the 1st January 2010. It has never been the intention of NE to restrict the control or consumption of woodpigeons. There are a number of short term and long term options available to deal with this issue but the shooting community should be reassured that in 2010 it will be possible to sell woodpigeons for human consumption provided they were shot under the terms and conditions of the general licence.

 

You know where I am if you need me.

 

David

 

Thanks for clearing this up for us.

[David BASC]

Yes it will still be illegal to sell shot wild geese, as far as I am aware.

 

David

[Highlander]

Morning all,

Others seem to be getting vexed about the two gulls that have been taken off for this year- but frankly there is little point in campaigning this year to get them back on – they will not be, so best to concentrate on other issues.

David

 

So David, did BASC know in advance about losing those two gulls or were they caught unawares and if so why? As the General Licences are so important (to the countryside community) why doesn’t BASC have a consultation procedure with NE to discuss such proposals prior to them being included in the licence and if it already does how come such things ‘slip’ through? As you rather defeatedly point out...once taken off the listings there’s little point in trying to get them put back on! What else might we lose whilst BASC look on?

[Traztaz]

I would point out guys that once a species becomes protected it is very unlikely to get it back on the open ticket again.Here in Germany to prevent this happening we have various species that are under hunters protection, ie we as hunters have imposed our own ban on shooting them.Of most importance is the partrige.The population is very low and as such we as hunters do not shoot them and try to protect them as best we can, in the hope that the population will grow and stabelise again to such an extent that we will be able to once again hunt thgem.This has stopped them being removed from the game licence, which had that happen would be near impossible to reinstate them should we manage to cultivate and expand the population.

 

Just a thought!!

[David BASC]

The consultation process took place, notes are (should be) on the NE site.

 

Now the DRAFT OGL's are published so further consultation can now take place on the detail over the next three months.

 

As I posed earlier, there were concerns by NE on a National level about these gull populations, remember the OGL gives the right to control PESTS, if a species is no longer a pest it comes off the licence.

 

At least BASC is in there fighting all the way, thanks to the support of our members that gives BASC the resources so to do, and of course even you non BASC members benefit from the work we do....

 

Thank you all you loyal BASC members for helping us, to help you.

 

David

[IanClark]

Course I wasn't asleep, but I knew David would get that one for me :blink:

[mayfly36]

So your Ian clark, you learn something everyday, thanks for looking at the email i sent ya. I didnt know you were a member here, Its a small world. :blink: