lord_seagrave Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Been lurking for a while and thought I'd say hullo. As a novice this forum is a fantastic resource for all my (many) air rifle queries... I've been plinking with a 1970-something .177 Webley Hawk (have stripped the nasty varnish off the stock, and getting those nice chaps at the Northampton Gun Co. to check it wasn't going to kill me...) since last year and have finally taken the plunge and ordered a HW97K in .20 for the serious business of hunting. One question, (doubtless it's been asked already), Pellpax don't (yet) do a .20 taster pack - so what would be a good choice of pellet for my new rifle? I started using some Bisleys in the Hawk and when they ran out I succame to slick advertising and got a box of Logun Penetrators. The Logun pellets seemed to be very accurate given the antique (and very twangy) nature of the rifle, but are they likely to perform in the Weihrauch? H&N FTT's were shaken at me when I ordered it, but these seem a little, er, cheap :*) ... All suggestions welcome. Delivery of the 97K is due at the end of the month. Regards, Lord Seagrave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy17 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Not sure what selection of pellets you can get in .20, if they do them I would recommend: Accupel,Powerpell,the H&N FTT's, Airarms field just a few to try that are generally recommended by others. yis andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Ring the people at "Hull Cartridge" who are the importers. They may be able to point you in the right direction. It worked for me. I use H&N FTT in my Hw57 .22 However the best way is to try as many different pellets as is possible. You may have 3 identical rifles and they may favour a different pellet each. It is a bit of a lottery I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clone Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 i know that there are allot of .20 pellets going cheap on ebay as always but just watch p&p shouldn't be more that £1.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 try the hn ftt ime sure the hw97 has a louther barrel.hn are a good pill pluss not as heavy as a lot of the others.enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I have a .20 cal 97k and have tried most pellets available in .20 thro it at one time or another... Only two I can 100% recomend ... H&N FTT and H&N Hollow Point Both capable of consistant 10 ~ 15 mm groups at 30 metres. Had mine for about 3 years and 20,000 pellets thro it ... consistantly accurate... Will take about 3 or 4 tins thro being a springer to fully settle down from new. Also found mine doesn't like barrel cleaning much and takes quite a few pellets to settle back down again. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I meant to say earlier.................. Welcome and don't be a lurker. Don't be afraid of asking questions. It is how you learn. I learnt a lot fromopening my big mouth!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 hi and welcome only down side about the nice .20 is the lack of pellets out there the only two worth any salt are the H&N FTT and the crossmans, but as little dicky bird told me that JSB (who make Air Arms Field and webley lazadomes and daystate FT) will be making pellets in the .20 range in the very near future, which will be about the best you could get so keep an eye out for them or try contacting the people over at airammo for more news about them. hope this helps you out a little ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 only down side about the nice .20 is the lack of pellets out there More out there than most people think ... quick rummage thro my pellet box revealed 13 different types and there's more out there... Quite looking forward to giving the JSB's a go myself to see how they compare... Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 ok allow me to rephrase that then LOL only down side about the .20 is the lack oif DECENT pellets out there LOL ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 ok allow me to rephrase that then LOL only down side about the .20 is the lack oif DECENT pellets out there LOL ROB Depends what you call a decent pellet You quoted crosmans for example is being decent ... neither of my current .20 cal guns (97k springer or Harrier X) will shoot crosmans at all well ! On the the other hand my 97k shoots incredibly well with H&N Hollow Points (10mm groups @ 30 metres). Yet hollow point pellets dont automatically spring to mind as a first choice for accuracy, but they suit this gun. Bottom line is a decent pellet is only a decent pellet if it shoots well in your gun. I'll grant you there is less choice in .20 but there's enough makes / styles of pellet out there to pretty well be able to find one or two decent pellets for a given gun. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Thanks for this. Perhaps I ought to start stocking up on pellets now just in case... I won't have any money left after splashing out on a case for it as well. On that score, what cases do people out there use? Is there any merit on a slip for the field but a hard case for when it's in the house/car? The HW's hardly a lightweight, but I want it to be well-protected... On the subject on money, fortunately, I've already got a Hawk Pro-Stalk scope on the Webley (LOL - it's worth about a grillion times more than the rifle!), so that will save me some ammo-buying pennies. Still, anyone got any half-tins .20 munition that they've tried and rejected...? LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Just get 2 or 3 of tins of .20 FTT's they'll shoot well enough in it for starters and are readily available. Get some lead thro the barrel and get the rifle starting to settle down before you start making any fine judgements on the performance of other pellets. 97k in my opinion doesn't need a hard case, just a decent well padded gun slip to protect it from knocks. It's built like the proverbial 'brick built ****house' and almost never drifts off zero despite being lugged all over the place. Good choice of rifle, would never part with mine. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 That's exactly what I'll do - in fact I'll chase up those coves in Northampton and find out when it's going to arrive. I've got a couple of days off due soon so I can start laying down that lead! Anyone else shoot a 97k in any of its incarnations? LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Just realised I think i have some .20 crossman pellets about some where if you send me your details will try to get the in the post to you. ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Thanks for this. Perhaps I ought to start stocking up on pellets now just in case... I won't have any money left after splashing out on a case for it as well. On that score, what cases do people out there use? Is there any merit on a slip for the field but a hard case for when it's in the house/car? The HW's hardly a lightweight, but I want it to be well-protected... On the subject on money, fortunately, I've already got a Hawk Pro-Stalk scope on the Webley (LOL - it's worth about a grillion times more than the rifle!), so that will save me some ammo-buying pennies. For me it is a case (parden the pun!) of having a Hardcase for storing and transportation. I have a 6year old girl and I want it to be safe, both from prying fingers AND other knocks (I must stress here that it is ALWAYS stored out of harms way but better safe than sorry) However I do have a slip that I use when crossing roads or walking to a shoot (happened once when the car broke down!!) Whatever suits you at the end of the day mate. No rights or wrongs just as long as it's legally covered. As for the scope nice aren't they ? Got one on my Hw57. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Lord seagrave Eh! I'd go for accupels Every time Try a few different types on a made up range at 20 paces and see if you get better grouping with some than with others (You'll never buy "cheep" pellets again) Have you thought about clay shooting with a 12 yet? Joining BASC ? comming out on a foot Hunt (Excercise cant call it a hunt anymore)? we might have met with a name like lord seagrave i bet your on my door step WB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 PS you want to go and see Uncle Terry at Grimleys Corby Top man for airgun advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yes, from sunny Barton Seagrave, nestling in the verdant vales of the East Midlands... I'm already paid-up with the BASC in preparation (though I get some funny looks on the train perusing the latest Shooting and Conservation mag...). Went to the Kelmarsh game fair and won nearly two quid on the ferret-racing. Can shoot straight(ish) with an antique. What more preparation do I need...? LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I'd go for accupels Every time What sort of group sizes do you get in your .20 97k with accupels wabbitbosher ? I've never managed to get accupels to group at all well in mine... Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I'd go for accupels Every time What sort of group sizes do you get in your .20 97k with accupels wabbitbosher ? I've never managed to get accupels to group at all well in mine... Tony Ive never had one mate , Ive had a BSA supersport for years Tried all sorts of pellets most were **** in the BSA then i brought some Accupels i got about less than 20mm group at 20 yards well i did , i havnt shot it for a year or two , kinda got swallowed up in my shotguns , now movin on to a .22 rimmy but thats just me and a BSA other guns will differ WB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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