THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 It looks like It's about to fall apart so I put a knife to it & was a little surprised. name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 WLSG = West London Shooting Ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was illegal? Looks like your knife needs sharpening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was illegal? Looks like your knife needs sharpening ?:blink: let's just say dis'arming unsafe munitions. How can it be illegall. I can own complete cart's or any componant & I can make my own so I can dismantle them. The knife was sharp enough for me not to run my finger down it. Ok, not as sharp as a razor but I'll keep my blood inside my skin thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 WLSG = West London Shooting Ground Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) The one you cut up had a Fiocchi 615 primer. An imported case. Next time, use a knife made from a ground and honed HSS hacksaw blade, and cut about 3/8" above the brass. Then you can push everything, intact, backwards through the crimp. I had to do this by the thousand and my speed was one every four seconds! But that was a long time ago! The 'dismantling' act was to stop anarchists making bombs from the blackpowder years ago. Smokeless powder is very hard to detonate and requires roughly its own weight in iniitiating compound. P.S. Do you know Ronnie Crowe? Edited February 11, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 very good, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The one you cut up had a Fiocchi 615 primer. An imported case. Next time, use a knife made from a ground and honed HSS hacksaw blade, and cut about 3/8" above the brass. Then you can push everything, intact, backwards through the crimp. I had to do this by the thousand and my speed was one every four seconds! But that was a long time ago! The 'dismantling' act was to stop anarchists making bombs from the blackpowder years ago. Smokeless powder is very hard to detonate and requires roughly its own weight in iniitiating compound. P.S. Do you know Ronnie Crowe? Ah, understood, but as a SGC holder I stand by my statement above, if I can hold & assemble componants I can dissmantle them. After all If you have a tub of powder to assemble (I actually do have 1kg upstairs) then I'd like to see charges being brought to court for dismantling to get powder. As for Ronnie Crowe, no sorry, I don't know him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Ah, understood, but as a SGC holder I stand by my statement above, if I can hold & assemble componants I can dissmantle them.After all If you have a tub of powder to assemble (I actually do have 1kg upstairs) then I'd like to see charges being brought to court for dismantling to get powder. As for Ronnie Crowe, no sorry, I don't know him. I agree with you! Ronnie Crowe is a well-known cartridge collector. He had 'The Scarecrow' brand cartridge printed. Edited February 11, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Is it illegal to dismantle ammunition then? I was under the impression it was but I am unsure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Is it illegal to dismantle ammunition then?I was under the impression it was but I am unsure now. A big grey area, but with HSE these days, even picking your nose will get you prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 A big grey area, but with HSE these days, even picking your nose will get you prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I agree with you!Ronnie Crowe is a well-known cartridge collector from down your way. He had 'The Scarecrow' brand cartridge printed. Just googled the name & a gunshop in Chelmsford Essex come up but nothing about Scarecrow cart's ? More information if any one an please, I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymc Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Great wee video - very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Just googled the name & a gunshop in Chelmsford Essex come up but nothing about Scarecrow cart's ?More information if any one an please, I'm curious. I'll dig out the shell he gave to me at a Game Fair in the 1990s. The shell is in a black case with silver print. (He would have a display stand at the fairs, with shooting curios. Stuffed foxes dressed like people, gin-traps, old reloading tools, etc.) Edited February 11, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'll dig out the shell he gave to me at a Game Fair in the 1990s. The shell is in a black case with silver print. (He would have a display stand at the fairs, with shooting curios. Stuffed foxes dressed like people, gin-traps, old reloading tools, etc.) Sounds like I missed out in those day's. Would of loved to have seen that stand. As for the cartridge, if & when you find it I'd love to see a photo of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) Ooops! Sorry! The 'Scarecrow' is another cartridge from a book on cartridge collecting! I must have had a senior moment! However, I did find the Ronnie Crowe cartridge. It's called the 'Chelmer'. ...and as a bonus, another view of the Chelmer and a pic of an interesting reject that escaped from the Eley factory in the 1990s. Notice there is no 'brass'! Edited February 13, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Wow FC do you put gloves on when you handle those? Every time I get me sweaty paws on any cart the ink runs off! Every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Wow FC do you put gloves on when you handle those? Every time I get me sweaty paws on any cart the ink runs off! Every time! Are you taking the p***? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Thanks for the photo's F C. I'll do a bit more research on the scarecrow cart's. Loved the Eley reject, bet the first time the box was opened the surprised look would of been a picture. I can just imagine someone pokeing the box with a broom handle while holding a cushion on top of their head from behind the sofa waiting for a bang. I take it the reject is otherwise fully loaded ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Thanks for the photo's F C.I'll do a bit more research on the scarecrow cart's. Loved the Eley reject, bet the first time the box was opened the surprised look would of been a picture. I can just imagine someone pokeing the box with a broom handle while holding a cushion on top of their head from behind the sofa waiting for a bang. I take it the reject is otherwise fully loaded ? This one never made it to a box. I was given it at the factory. Yes, it is 'fully loaded'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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