Fenny Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 hi is it me or am i just being mad we are currently in a reccession and cartridges are going through the roof any ideas cheers fenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 (edited) Yes they are going up but if you were to take a comparison between cartridge prices and average earnings since say 1950 you would find that shotgun cartridges are a lot cheaper now than they were in the 50s, 60s and 70s compared to earnings. In other words how many cartridges you could buy with an average week's wages. In the 1950s they were probably four times the price in real terms They probably reached an all time low in the 90s when to all intents they didn't go up at all despite steady wage increases year on year. Now they are going up again, due mainly to a fall in the value of the pound but they are still a lot cheaper in real terms than what our fathers were paying. My uncle Harry used to shoot decoyed pigeons with a .22 ( wait for them to land and shoot them on the ground) because he said they weren't worth wasting a cartridge on them. There's a book called Blackpowder Gunsmithing, its an American book in which the author ( Ralph T Walker) describes growing up in Montana in the 1920s during the depression. In those day's an average mans wage was $1 a day but a box of 25 cartridges was $1. Can you imagine working a whole day to buy a box of cartridges? When I was 16 in 1970 I had a Saturday job working in a supermarket. My whole day's wages would buy me 40 Baikal cartridges or a box of 25 Eley Grand Prix and a few coppers left over. Thats why I started reloading, in those days I could reload cartridges for half the price of shop bought ones. And it wasn't just cartridges either, my first O/U, a Baikal NE cost me a month's wages in 1974 and I was earning reasonable money too. I couldn't stretch to an ejector. That same gun would be about a week's wages today. They may be going up but they are nothing like the price they were. Edited March 11, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Yes they are going up but if you were to take a comparison between cartridge prices and average earnings since say 1950 you would find that shotgun cartridges are a lot cheaper now than they were in the 50s, 60s and 70s compared to earnings. In other words how many cartridges you could buy with an average week's wages. In the 1950s they were probably four times the price in real termsThey probably reached an all time low in the 90s when to all intents they didn't go up at all despite steady wage increases year on year. Now they are going up again, due mainly to a fall in the value of the pound but they are still a lot cheaper in real terms than what our fathers were paying. My uncle Harry used to shoot decoyed pigeons with a .22 ( wait for them to land and shoot them on the ground) because he said they weren't worth wasting a cartridge on them. There's a book called Blackpowder Gunsmithing, its an American book in which the author ( Ralph T Walker) describes growing up in Montana in the 1920s during the depression. In those day's an average mans wage was $1 a day but a box of 25 cartridges was $1. Can you imagine working a whole day to buy a box of cartridges? When I was 16 in 1970 I had a Saturday job working in a supermarket. My whole day's wages would buy me 40 Baikal cartridges or a box of 25 Eley Grand Prix and a few coppers left over. Thats why I started reloading, in those days I could reload cartridges for half the price of shop bought ones. And it wasn't just cartridges either, my first O/U, a Baikal NE cost me a month's wages in 1974 and I was earning reasonable money too. I couldn't stretch to an ejector. That same gun would be about a week's wages today. They may be going up but they are nothing like the price they were. I agree with what your saying Vince, but what you've failed to mention at the same time is the potential return on carts from the game dealer. Whats the current price for pigeon, pence? rabbit, pence? even pheasant & partridge have little or no value these days. How far do you have to travel to your local game dealer? In esscence assuming you were a reasonable shot it was far easier to offset the cost of shooting 20+ years ago. Just my opinion tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 In the early 1970's, pigeons were fetching 62 - 68 pence each. Some of you may remember even higher prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Yes, and who remembers Venniards (spelling?) in croydon who used to buy feathers etc and even made shooting starlings worthwhile? They used to buy feathers etc. I still get £1 for a rabbit but only 5-10 per week max Edited March 12, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 You cant even sell Furs anymore - used to get money for Fox pelts and even rabbit!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) You need to cultivate local butchers because game dealers won't send a van to collect less than a certain number and who can blame them. Local restaurants too. But this is the rural economy and contacts have to be established and developed if we are going to survive. This is not just me talking, we have to pull togeather here if we are get anywhere. Unless you plan to eat it all yourself? Edited March 12, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Phone this guy if you have birds meat etc to sell. He can pick up as well. Andrew . He cant get enough. Edited March 12, 2010 by Cranfield Don't post telephone numbers on the Forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Phone this guy if you have birds meat etc to sell. He can pick up as well. Andrew ********* . He cant get enough. Im sure hes gonna be a happy chappie,when the antis give him a bell BB might be a good idea to remove his number mate,and anyone who needs his number can PM you for it Edited March 12, 2010 by Cranfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Im sure hes gonna be a happy chappie,when the antis give him a bell BBmight be a good idea to remove his number mate,and anyone who needs his number can PM you for it We could start eating antis! But I think they taste of ********! (I edited this myself!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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