1 of 5 Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Two of the better sub £100 scopes are the 3-10x44 Reflex and the AGS 3-9x40 Elite. The AGS has the better optics and build quality by some margin but a useless reticle compared to the Reflex. The newer MAP reticled Hawkes are a big improvement over their older stablemates too. The 50mm Hawkes are ****. I've looked through many expensive scopes and the difference between 30mm and 1 inch is ZERO. The quality of the glass is the main determining factor in brightness for a given mag. A 50mm lens is far harder to grind to a high standard than a 40mm one and a good 40mm will always pan an average 50mm. Sub £100 I've found almost exclusively the 50mm and bigger lenses to be inferior by some margin to smaller objectives. Big numbers impress the average punter though and 50mm sounds so much more impressive than 40mm so they sell. It's only when you get to the quality of Meopta and higher that the 50mm starts to outshine the 40mm as a general rule as you are then getting top quality lenses at all sizes and to use the boxing term - "a good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 If like me you have a limited budget to operate with and no serious money to spend then my advice would be buy at the top end of the spectrum where the likes of Simmons($300) are concerned as opposed to the bottom end where the top Europeon scopes are concerned............And import ..........you'll make serious savings Yes it would be a smidt ,kahles or a swaro and i only dream of the day i have some daft money to throw around :thumbs: Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 I've looked through many expensive scopes and the difference between 30mm and 1 inch is ZERO. The quality of the glass is the main determining factor in brightness for a given mag. But is this in daylight or in the "twilight"? No matter what the size of lense they will be the same in the daylight! It is only when the light goes that you can tell the difference, to the greatest effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I've looked through many expensive scopes and the difference between 30mm and 1 inch is ZERO. The quality of the glass is the main determining factor in brightness for a given mag. You are of course absolutely correct, but let's not get in to that one again, we could be here for months :thumbs: Is it true .177 aiguns are better than .22?? not sure myself just something I heard the other day. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Saw in this months Airgunner mag in Smiths a company called "stringtown supplies" have a sale on Nikko Stirling scopes. The company is in Polgate East Sussex about 10 mins from Eastbourne on the A22. They also do mailorder. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I want to know where you got that Storm Trooper outfit, Stuart, and did you see a can of beer and a half eaten kebab in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 [Is it true .177 aiguns are better than .22?? not sure myself just something I heard the other day. . . Yeah .177 are ****! :thumbs: .......................... INCOMING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Saw in this months Airgunner mag in Smiths a company called "stringtown supplies" have a sale on Nikko Stirling scopes.The company is in Polgate East Sussex about 10 mins from Eastbourne on the A22. They also do mailorder. Hope this helps. Im surprised WHSmiths havent banned you from reading all the mags berfore putting them back on the shelves. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Im surprised WHSmiths havent banned you from reading all the mags berfore putting them back on the shelves. :thumbs: They don't mind as long as I clean up afterwards. OH, the Air gun mags.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) Now usually people would say that this thread has gone down the slippery slope, this ones gone straight of a cliff! :thumbs: Edited November 14, 2005 by Axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Guilty as charged m'lud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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