Carrying a lock knife

[remmy1100]

Was just watching police program on tv and a man was arrested for having a lock knife in his car . The officer said it was a offence to have a lock knife in public place and there was no excuse for having a lock knife . I carry one when I'm out shooting . I also asked in gun shop and he said it wasn't illegal and one up on the law on knifed

[J@mes]

covered on here loads of times, usually ends up in a falling out.

 

Carry one when you're shooting, no problem. Take it in to tesco, problem.

[roadkill]

as long as you have a reason then thats fine , i take one shooting and to the allotment , other than that i leave it at home . If i nip to the shops on my way to these i still leave it in my pocket just not on show

[william1]

yes the lock knife is illegal so i use a army swiss knife . bit more handy /trev

[roadkill]

wrong lock knife is not illega

Edited July 21, 2010 by roadkill

[J@mes]

It is now ILLEGAL to have any sharply pointed or bladed instrument in your possession, in a

public place without good reason or lawful authority. (See below RE: folding pocket knives)

A public place is anywhere that the public has, or is permitted to have access to, even if they must

pay to do so. This not only covers areas such as roads and highways, shops, and pubs but also less

obvious areas. This is important to realise for those working or spending leisure time in the

countryside, as public footpaths or other rights of way come under the definition of a public place.

Estate land where the public may have access is also a public place even if it is privately owned.

Your car or other vehicle is also classed as a public place whilst on the highway, and the police

now have search and seize powers without warrant with respect to knives.

 

 

Good reason for carrying a knife may be shown by occupation as a farmer, estate manager,

recreational stalker, gameshooter, angler or anyone else who has reasonable grounds for expecting

to need a knife whilst pursuing a lawful activity.

Leaving a knife in the car, or in your pocket for when you next go shooting, or forgetting that it is

there, is NOT a defence.

 

 

Carrying a knife in public must be in connection with the activity for which it is needed; going into

a shop with a knife in your pocket if you are returning from or going to a place where you farm,

fish or shoot etc. would constitute good reason.

 

There is an exemption in law for folding pocket knives. These must have cutting edges of less than

three inches and blades which do not lock. However when pocket knives of this type are carried

for example in a nightclub, at a school or to a football match they are likely to be viewed as

offensive weapons even though the actual knife isn’t an offensive weapon in itself.

 

There is a further exemption for the carrying of knives as part of either a national costume (such as

the Scottish Skean Dhu) or as part of a religious obligation (the Sikh Kirpan).

Offences under Section 139 are trialable in both Magistrates’ and the Crown Court. Penalties on

conviction in the Magistrates’ Court are a maximum of six months imprisonment, a maximum fine

of £5,000 or both. In the Crown Court, penalties are a maximum of two years imprisonment, a

maximum fine of £5,000 or both.

 

From BASC

Edited July 21, 2010 by J@mes

[leonp9lbw]

It is now ILLEGAL to have any sharply pointed or bladed instrument in your possession, in a

public place without good reason or lawful authority. (See below RE: folding pocket knives)

A public place is anywhere that the public has, or is permitted to have access to, even if they must

pay to do so. This not only covers areas such as roads and highways, shops, and pubs but also less

obvious areas. This is important to realise for those working or spending leisure time in the

countryside, as public footpaths or other rights of way come under the definition of a public place.

Estate land where the public may have access is also a public place even if it is privately owned.

Your car or other vehicle is also classed as a public place whilst on the highway, and the police

now have search and seize powers without warrant with respect to knives.

 

 

Good reason for carrying a knife may be shown by occupation as a farmer, estate manager,

recreational stalker, gameshooter, angler or anyone else who has reasonable grounds for expecting

to need a knife whilst pursuing a lawful activity.

Leaving a knife in the car, or in your pocket for when you next go shooting, or forgetting that it is

there, is NOT a defence.

 

 

Carrying a knife in public must be in connection with the activity for which it is needed; going into

a shop with a knife in your pocket if you are returning from or going to a place where you farm,

fish or shoot etc. would constitute good reason.

 

There is an exemption in law for folding pocket knives. These must have cutting edges of less than

three inches and blades which do not lock. However when pocket knives of this type are carried

for example in a nightclub, at a school or to a football match they are likely to be viewed as

offensive weapons even though the actual knife isn’t an offensive weapon in itself.

 

There is a further exemption for the carrying of knives as part of either a national costume (such as

the Scottish Skean Dhu) or as part of a religious obligation (the Sikh Kirpan).

Offences under Section 139 are trialable in both Magistrates’ and the Crown Court. Penalties on

conviction in the Magistrates’ Court are a maximum of six months imprisonment, a maximum fine

of £5,000 or both. In the Crown Court, penalties are a maximum of two years imprisonment, a

maximum fine of £5,000 or both.

 

From BASC

Whats the CA Say ? Sorry James couldn't resist

[Dekers]

Was just watching police program on tv and a man was arrested for having a lock knife in his car . The officer said it was a offence to have a lock knife in public place and there was no excuse for having a lock knife . I carry one when I'm out shooting . I also asked in gun shop and he said it wasn't illegal and one up on the law on knifed

 

 

This goes round and round, just cause, just situation and just place...NO PROBLEM...anything else perhaps an issue....what actually was the question??

[Colster]

This old chestnut.... have we covered assisted openers yet?

[10WM]

Was just watching police program on tv and a man was arrested for having a lock knife in his car . The officer said it was a offence to have a lock knife in public place and there was no excuse for having a lock knife . I carry one when I'm out shooting . I also asked in gun shop and he said it wasn't illegal and one up on the law on knifed

 

 

My feeling are, if we are out with a Rifle, be it for bunnies /Mr sharp teeth, deer or whatever, Carrying a knife under these circumstances should be automatically excepted,

 

Maybe there is a need to have knife added to all FAC's, ? Or better would be? that it should be taken as read by the police, that carrying of a suitable knife while actually out,

 

or in transit with your firearm is covered. " Easy Peasy" or what?. If it was taken as read " FAC" = okay for knife, both the Police and us would all know where we stand.

 

I have a nice Buck razor sharp sheaf knife that I carry in the glove box while out with rifles. as I mostly shoot from my vehicle, It's a tool of my trade.

 

But if I leave it there after the rifles are put back in the gun safe, I am then breaking the law if in a public place.

 

It seems a bit of nonsence to me that you can be trusted with a high powered rifle, but then come under scrutiny for a knife.

 

 

I am sure it is covered by the law, but having a discussion at 3 in the morning with some motorway officer about the fineries of the knife law, would then be eliminated.

 

I like Black and White. But unfortunately we are having to live with some Grey.