.223 Best Round

[tikka.223]

As per title what do you consider the best .223 round for foxes,I swear by Hornady V-max 55gr moly's but am considering giving Federal V-shok 40gr Nosler's a try.

[jamie g]

40's 50's and 55's are all good. the heavier the bullet the better in the wind over longer distance. 40's will shoot abit flatter but at normal foxing ranges you wouldnt tell the difference. in which case the heavier bullets hit with more ftlb so i would stick to them.

[DaveK]

As per title what do you consider the best .223 round for foxes,I swear by Hornady V-max 55gr moly's but am considering giving Federal V-shok 40gr Nosler's a try.

 

Yep. 55gn vmax but without the moly. As for vshok, if you swear by the vmax and it aint broke, why fix it?

[Treestalker]

As per title what do you consider the best .223 round for foxes,I swear by Hornady V-max 55gr moly's but am considering giving Federal V-shok 40gr Nosler's a try.

 

I've tried virtually every bullet available before settling on the 50grain V-Max.

 

I average 200 foxes a year lamping and more during the day and can't fault the 50grain. In the early 1990s I used Hornady SXSPs, Sierra Blitz, Blitz Kings, Speer TNTs, Nosler Ballistic Tips then the Hornady V-Max in all three weights. I've also tried a couple of boxes of Berger MEFs but in my opinion the 50gr V-Max is the best.

 

I found the 40 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips quite tough and more suited to 22-250 velocities.

 

For deer I use the 55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip and for park shooting I've even poked them through fallow and red deer chests and heads without too much bother when clearing up other people's mistakes. The 55 grain Nosler is tougher and therefore a better deer bullet than the V-Max.

[tikka.223]

Yep. 55gn vmax but without the moly. As for vshok, if you swear by the vmax and it aint broke, why fix it?

 

Why not moly coated?

[DaveK]

Why not moly coated?

 

Dirty messy stuff, not much of which is left on the bullet when you reload them.

A pig to get off your fingers.

Corrosive apparently (open to being educated on this one).

Doesn't seem to perform any better tan normal ones

 

But mainly

 

I just don't like them :blink:

[harv]

40's 50's and 55's are all good. the heavier the bullet the better in the wind over longer distance. 40's will shoot abit flatter but at normal foxing ranges you wouldnt tell the difference. in which case the heavier bullets hit with more ftlb so i would stick to them.

 

a lighter bullet of the same calibre travelling faster will not be as affected by the wind as much as a heavier bullet travelling slower especially over long distances.

[jamie g]

a lighter bullet of the same calibre travelling faster will not be as affected by the wind as much as a heavier bullet travelling slower especially over long distances.

 

if thats the case why dont long distance shooters use lighter bullets then ? i will tell you why because the bc on them is nowhere nr as good as the heavier bullets.

 

yes they shoot faster but when they get over a longer distance they bleed speed faster and drop more then a heavier bullet will

[DaveK]

if thats the case why dont long distance shooters use lighter bullets then ? i will tell you why because the bc on them is nowhere nr as good as the heavier bullets.

 

yes they shoot faster but when they get over a longer distance they bleed speed faster and drop more then a heavier bullet will

 

But harv might think that 100 yards is a long way, in which case he could be right :blink:

[harv]

if thats the case why dont long distance shooters use lighter bullets then ? i will tell you why because the bc on them is nowhere nr as good as the heavier bullets.

 

yes they shoot faster but when they get over a longer distance they bleed speed faster and drop more then a heavier bullet will

 

so in any particular calibre long range shooters use the heaviest bullet possible for that calibre :blink:

 

and have you changed your theory from windage to bullet drop now?

 

and dave, i once shot a fox with my air pistol at a 100 yds,dropped stone dead so it cant be that far :look:

[DaveK]

and dave, i once shot a fox with my air pistol at a 100 yds,dropped stone dead so it cant be that far :look:

 

Empty biro tube and pearl barley at that range. :blink:

[harv]

Empty biro tube and pearl barley at that range. :blink:

 

too much meat damage with those bazookas, they taste like chicken you know!

[Gareth W]

Dirty messy stuff, not much of which is left on the bullet when you reload them.

A pig to get off your fingers.

Corrosive apparently (open to being educated on this one).

Doesn't seem to perform any better tan normal ones

 

But mainly

 

I just don't like them :blink:

 

I wouldn't have thought it corrosive, we use a spray on version of molycote on the pins that hold main rotor blades in place, mainly for it's lubricating and corrosion preventative properties.

[snowz]

if thats the case why dont long distance shooters use lighter bullets then ? i will tell you why because the bc on them is nowhere nr as good as the heavier bullets.

 

yes they shoot faster but when they get over a longer distance they bleed speed faster and drop more then a heavier bullet will

 

Jamie is correct you are NOT!!

Long range shooters use the best bullet suited for that rifle to achieve the best ballistics for the distance they are shooting. They don't use the HEAVIEST bullet they use the bullet with the best BC for the job and heavier is better than light as what jamis said light bullets bleed speed and blow off course with wind quicker and easier than heavier bullets with higher BC.

If you want more info on this or want to quote your statement come over to the UK Longrane site an others with more info than me will educate you in Long range shooting

 

Atb Richard

[al4x]

simple answer is whatever shoots best in your rifle, you can faff about with bullet weight and type but if it doesn't suit your rifle twist etc it won't be accurate. Any .223 round will kill foxes, 55grain works well in mine if reloading then its sierra blitzkings or made up rounds I got a load of winchester silver tips cheap from a kind member on here and they shoot fantastically through my rifle.

[harv]

Jamie is correct you are NOT!!

Long range shooters use the best bullet suited for that rifle to achieve the best ballistics for the distance they are shooting. They don't use the HEAVIEST bullet they use the bullet with the best BC for the job and heavier is better than light as what jamis said light bullets bleed speed and blow off course with wind quicker and easier than heavier bullets with higher BC.

If you want more info on this or want to quote your statement come over to the UK Longrane site an others with more info than me will educate you in Long range shooting

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Atb Richard

 

So you agree with me then, the heavier bullet is not the correct answer.

jamies second point was about bullet drop and regardless of weight or speed they will both hit the ground at the same time although at a different distance.its called gravity.

Thanks for the offer to educate me but I suggest you go into the field rather than googling it as I have done to 600 yds which was good enough

Research for me and as alx4 says whatever your happy with to do the job in hand then who really cares.

[jamie g]

So you agree with me then, the heavier bullet is not the correct answer.

jamies second point was about bullet drop and regardless of weight or speed they will both hit the ground at the same time although at a different distance.its called gravity.

Thanks for the offer to educate me but I suggest you go into the field rather than googling it as I have done to 600 yds which was good enough

Research for me and as alx4 says whatever your happy with to do the job in hand then who really cares.

 

 

you quoted the longer the distance the less drop the lighter bullets have ? that isnt the case. out to normal foxing ranges the lighter bullets are flatter shooting. then once they get over 300 yards they start to drop alot quicker then the heavier bullets. because they are bleeding speed this is because the bc isnt as good.

 

i would go out to a max 300 yards which in my eyes the 50 grain does everthing i need it to in 22/250 if i wanted to go out over that distance say to 500 yards on targets then the heavier bullets would work much better. they drop less and are afected less by wind.

 

as al4x said you still have to eget the right bullet choice for your rifle. and at normal foxing ranges. say max 300 yards there all do a good job as long as the rifle likes them.

Edited October 8, 2010 by jamie g