gibby Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 does it do much harm to them? Why is it not as bad as doing it with a shotgun? Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 with a rimfire (im assuming your asking for your hw60 (or is it 66)) i have always been told its fine. if you want a snap cap, use a fired case. ive dry fired mine hundreds of times (probably shouldnt, but i like playing ) and it hasnt stoped working yet. *touch wood* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 You should never dry-fire rimfires due to the fact that sometimes the firing pin can come into contact with the breech face. This can cause the edge of the chamber to be peened , making it swell slightly, which in turn can cause the case to bind up on extraction. It doesn’t do the nose of the firing pin much good either. The same problem doesn’t occur on CF rifles, but there is then the problem of having no resistance to the “strike of the pin” to contend with. Without anything to hit, the firing pin shoulder can shoot forward and make contact with the inside of the bolt. This can place strain on the shoulder of the firing pin and cause it to break. One or two dry fires aren’t a problem, that only occurs when you are constantly doing it. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 thanks for clearing it up... Was only wondering because i saw people doing it in the gunshop, and they obviously knew what they were doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 CZ manual, instructs you to dry fire after unloading.........CentreFire. Read a thread once on this subject, with the advance in technology, todays standards, it wouldn't make a great deal of difference with today's springs, firing pins....... Bazooka Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 CZ manual, instructs you to dry fire after unloading.........CentreFire. That's simply for safety purposes. The best method is to drop the bolt whilst holding the trigger back. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Without anything to hit, the firing pin shoulder can shoot forward and make contact with the inside of the bolt. This can place strain on the shoulder of the firing pin and cause it to break. One or two dry fires aren’t a problem, that only occurs when you are constantly doing it. thumbs-up.gif G.M. Took a leaf out of your book Gemini, done a quick google, copy/paste, Here is some info from Andy Webber of Armament Technolgy reagrding some questions which have surfaced in the past. Andy say: 1) Dry firing: On centerfire bolt action rifles, little damage results from regular dry firing; especially with cock-on-opening rifles such as most modern types. What does cause damage (to Remington 700's anyway) is slamming the bolt closed on an empty chamber on a regular basis. By doing this, the primary extraction camming surfaces slam into one another before they are rotated to produce sliding angular (camming) contact. This raises a burr on both the receiver and bolt handle camming surfaces. My advice is to close the bolt gently on an empty chamber, and just raise and lower the bolt handle to cock the action each time you wish to dry fire. The benefits gained by the marksman by dry firing, with respect to trigger control and familiarity of the human interface with the rifle, are many. From my discussions with *very* accomplished Service Rifle marksmmen, I have developed the opinion that for positional shooting (ie: service rifle standing, kneeling, sitting) dry firing at an appropriately-sized target can be more valuable practice than live shooting. Thanks Andy Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossM Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Well the CZ promotional video by Edgar Brothers shows them dry firing a few times and they never mention not doing it. Excellent DVD actually. Its like a video Brochure. Go on the Edgar Brothers site and request a brochure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Carry on dry-firing then lads. As for me….I’ll drop my bolt on a depressed trigger. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossM Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Is there such thing as a .22 snap cap?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yes. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I was given a .223 snap cap, otherwise I would never have known they existed :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 http://www.best-hunter-store.info/snapcaps13154.html G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Gemini, Just for the record, I do the same as you Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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