Slug Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Can someone please explain to me from both a technical construction and legal view point the difference between a mod held on 'Slot' for .22 rf and one purchased over the counter for a sub 12 Air Rifle ?..Are they interchangeable and if they are why have slots for them ? Cheers Slug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 hi chap, as far as my understanding goes they should have a proof mark if sold for fac purposes, some are purely made for air rifle, such as the weirauch, SAK mods are identical, i have 2, 1 is proofed 22wmr the other isn't but internally the same. the idea of "slots" comes from the fact that once fitted to a rimmie they become part of the fire arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I have 2 slots for mods but I am a little confused as to suitability of un proofed mods on a 22 rf, if it is sold to me as air rifle mod it wouldn't (Presumably) go on my FAC and yet if I attached it to the rimmy it becomes part of the firearm and plod start asking questions. Cheers S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Why would the police start asking questions? None of my moderators have serial numbers, my T8 doesn't have a proof mark that i can find either. Maybe your Fld is a bit more anal about such things, the fact remains that a good quality mod fitted to a rimfire is probably going to last nigh on for ever as long as you clean it once in a while. depending on which one you buy you could always replace it at a later date or repair it, it's not illegal to own a proofed moderator off ticket, so practically speaking you could still replace a moderator that's on your ticket without informing the police, how would they know which one you bought? I think the police might be more concerned if you were using a moderator without having the required slot on your licence, atb gram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I have 2 slots for mods but I am a little confused as to suitability of un proofed mods on a 22 rf, if it is sold to me as air rifle mod it wouldn't (Presumably) go on my FAC and yet if I attached it to the rimmy it becomes part of the firearm and plod start asking questions. Cheers S i have a slot for a .22 rimmy + mod which i have it regestered as a misc black mod no serial number i think most do that way your not stuck with 1 mod . But get one listed a slot for one wont help if stopped useing one not listed misc or not , i use a sak un-proofed without any trouble , But just for safety sake that is your choice . but im told there is no difference . also if you go to you rfd for one and you buy one for a .22lr he will do the paperwork inc numbers and that will be on your ticket if checked you had better be useing that one and not a misc ,,, i think im right on that lot its my understanding of things , atb gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 The difference is just that. A mod held on FAC can be used on your firearm. If you don't have a mod slot then you can't use one on there. You can have a moderator for an air rifle that is exactly the same as the one fitted to your firearm. If listed on your FAC as no visible number or maker who is to say which one is the FAC one? I don't know the legalities of it but you could swap them around as you please... Who would know? If you get inspected/stopped you have a mod on your FAC and a mod on your gun. You also possess several air rifle mods which is legal. I swap my mods around all the time. How am I supposed to remember which one goes where if they're all NVN, unknown maker and have a .30 cal hole in the end?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 The difference is just that. A mod held on FAC can be used on your firearm. If you don't have a mod slot then you can't use one on there. You can have a moderator for an air rifle that is exactly the same as the one fitted to your firearm. If listed on your FAC as no visible number or maker who is to say which one is the FAC one? I don't know the legalities of it but you could swap them around as you please... Who would know? If you get inspected/stopped you have a mod on your FAC and a mod on your gun. You also possess several air rifle mods which is legal. I swap my mods around all the time. How am I supposed to remember which one goes where if they're all NVN, unknown maker and have a .30 cal hole in the end?! pretty much what i said it seems we are in unison on the mod front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I think the picture is a little clearer and I appreciate your replies....... What I can't get my head round is this..the mod is classed as Firearm on my ticket to possess one it needs to go on my ticket, so if I bought an air rifle one it wouldn't be entered on my FAC therefore to attach it to the rimmy would be illegal as it doesn't occupy a slot ? If this wasn't the case peeps wouldn't bother asking for mod slots would they ? the slot is permission to hold or acquire not use.. ATB Slug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I think the picture is a little clearer and I appreciate your replies....... What I can't get my head round is this..the mod is classed as Firearm on my ticket to possess one it needs to go on my ticket, so if I bought an air rifle one it wouldn't be entered on my FAC therefore to attach it to the rimmy would be illegal as it doesn't occupy a slot ? If this wasn't the case peeps wouldn't bother asking for mod slots would they ? the slot is permission to hold or acquire not use.. ATB Slug the slot is to hold acquire and use , no slot cant have or use , dont fill slot then will loose slot , so then cant do anything concerning mod and fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 OK so lets clear that up fella's you cannot put a non- FAC non - entered on your FAC slot mod on a FAC firearm ? If it goes on an sub 12 air gun...legal...on a rimmy illegal ? ATB S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 OK so lets clear that up fella's you cannot put a non- FAC non - entered on your FAC slot mod on a FAC firearm ? If it goes on an sub 12 air gun...legal...on a rimmy illegal ? ATB S Am I getting old or am I just misreading this? If you have a FAC tool and want to put a moderator on the end of it you must have a slot for it. That moderator does not need to be proofed to go on a FAC tool. I have 7 FAC Rifles, they all have a mod, but only 1 (one) is proofed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) I think the picture is a little clearer and I appreciate your replies....... What I can't get my head round is this..the mod is classed as Firearm on my ticket to possess one it needs to go on my ticket, so if I bought an air rifle one it wouldn't be entered on my FAC therefore to attach it to the rimmy would be illegal as it doesn't occupy a slot ? If this wasn't the case peeps wouldn't bother asking for mod slots would they ? the slot is permission to hold or acquire not use.. ATB Slug Perfectly legal to buy it without producing your FAC as long as you tell the RFD it is for an air rifle, he does not then need to enter it on your FAC and you do not at that point need to notify your region either. If, by some chance you decide the next day, hey, that moderator will work fine on my .22lr (and you have a slot for it) you can perfectly legally attach it but have to notify your region you now have a moderator and the slot is filled. It is a bit silly and paperwork gets confusing for the region as nobody has entered it on your FAC... I DID THIS and asked my region if they wanted me to write it on the FAC, they asked me to go back to the original RFD and ask him to write it on.......******g stupid really! I understand the law in Ireland is different. Edited November 7, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.