reggiegun Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hi All, Been loading some 50 grain berger varmint for my 223 they have grouped really well, my question is how do they shape on charlie compared to v max. Regards, Reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Are they "match" ie small hollowpoint or MEF? (maximum expansion factor) either way they will pummel a fox but the match bullets are somewhat less explosive. BC is not as good as the Vmax but this will only make a difference at longer ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I use 52grn Berger Varmints in my 22-250 AI, the last fox i shot at just under 110yds had a tiny pencil like entrance hole just behind the left shoulder but a grapfruit sized exit hole, with pieces of lung and heart deposited several feet behind it. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) I use 66gn Berger Varmints in my .243AI. They do a very good job indeed!! Every bit as good as the VMax I used to use. Edited December 17, 2010 by Browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I used to use 50g Bergers in my 223, and they were very accurate. However, the 50g V max are not too dissimilar in accuracy, plus I feel a lot more comfortable in the the way that they knock a fox down. Maybe just a personal thing, but I would never go back to Bergers Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I used to use 50g Bergers in my 223, and they were very accurate. However, the 50g V max are not too dissimilar in accuracy, plus I feel a lot more comfortable in the the way that they knock a fox down. Maybe just a personal thing, but I would never go back to Bergers Don Hi Don, What do you load for your 223 now? Do you feel the v max are a better fox round? Did you experience Bergers not expanding too good? Regards, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I use Berger MEF50s in a 20BR, they kill OK but carcase damage is not usually severe over about 100 yards. IMHO the Blitz king 39gr is a better sib 300 yard bullet. In my 6mm I find Vmax's far more 'disruptive' that Berger/Barts match bullets, in fairness I have not put Berger MEFs through it. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hi Don, What do you load for your 223 now? Do you feel the v max are a better fox round? Did you experience Bergers not expanding too good? Regards, Paul I use 24.5 g of Vit 133 and find this to be an excellent load for the 50g Berger and 50g V Max. If I do my stuff right I get three shot groups touching at 100 yards with my Sako 75. I zero 1" high at 100 yards and aim dead on from 50 - 200 yards. At 250 yards I get c.4" drop but this degrades to c.9" at 300 yards (very rare I shoot at this range). I have no idea what twist rate the rifle has - may seem to be strange but I never worry about the N'th degree of ballistics - all I worry about is getting the rifle grouping well and knocking down foxes with the minimum amount of effort. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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