Gareth Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Hi all, My girlfriend and I are currently training our puppy, and he is coming along quite well. He is nearly 12 weeks, and sits on command for up to 30 seconds (I vary it between 10 and 30) before he is released as in the pinned obedience guide. He comes to 'here' almost always. He is currently learning to lie down on command. The problem I may have is: what do I do when other people give him commands? They often tell him to sit, lie down, etc. but they obviously don't know that they have to release him afterwards, those kind of things. Will he learn different rules for when I tell him to do something and when others do, or will it cause me major problems further down the line (like 1yr+)? He is a house dog, but I would like to take him out with me if and when the time comes. Do others have any experience with this situation? Many thanks, Gareth Edited January 4, 2011 by Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi all, He is a house dog, but I would like to take him out with me if and when the time comes. Here's the point - if you said that he was being trained to become the next Champion gun dog, I'd probably say that you shouldn't let people control him, but he's just a house dog. Mine came out fine and everyone's ordered him to do tricks - they get enjoyment from it. It'll do him no harm and you'll probably find that he'll enjoy commands from others as it's someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi all, My girlfriend and I are currently training our puppy, and he is coming along quite well. He is nearly 12 weeks, and sits on command for up to 30 seconds (I vary it between 10 and 30) before he is released as in the pinned obedience guide. He comes to 'here' almost always. He is currently learning to lie down on command. The problem I may have is: what do I do when other people give him commands? They often tell him to sit, lie down, etc. but they obviously don't know that they have to release him afterwards, those kind of things. Will he learn different rules for when I tell him to do something and when others do, or will it cause me major problems further down the line (like 1yr+)? He is a house dog, but I would like to take him out with me if and when the time comes. Do others have any experience with this situation? Many thanks, Gareth He is only a puppy take it slowly and i wouldn't be getting him to sit yet for long periods just let him be a puppy first. As for different commands from different people, my dogs will only take commands off me and me only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch valley Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 He is only a puppy take it slowly and i wouldn't be getting him to sit yet for long periods just let him be a puppy first. As for different commands from different people, my dogs will only take commands off me and me only Ive never noticed your dogs listening to your commands mate :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Thanks for the replies - looks like I've got nothing to worry about. As long as he does it right for me I don't care, I'm all up for the people and Jack to have some fun Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzypigeon Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 i made a point of getting my mrs and kids to do some light training with the dog when we first got him as a pup as they have never been involved with dogs or shooting so had no idea about how to train the puppy (not that im much better, but he has turned out ok) now my 2 year old will get my lab to sit while she walks off with his dummy and throws it (drops it at her feet lol) before she goes back and tells him to get it....then tells him its dead when he comes back... i feel its done no harm to my dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) There's nothing more depressing than meeting someone who has a dog that listens to no one but him. It's just a boring dog then! Edited January 4, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I didn't mean others giving commands the right way, I meant them telling him commands different to me (like sit, and then doing something else with him without releasing him). I wondered if it would affect his performance with me, when I expect him to do it right (or my way lol) Cheers, Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 my old man has taken my cocker out everyday since he was a pup,the dog walks all over him and he has no idea about training dogs.i showed him a few commands and how to correct the dog if he was taking the mickey,he's to soft with him . but to be 100% honest it works for me as the dog is 100% focused on me while out and knows he does'nt get away with anything.so as long as you keep the training fun,keep him interested and not doing to much to soon you should end up with a decent dog. what sort of dog is it anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzypigeon Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 to be fair thou my dog must think the mrs and kids are talking another language let alone another word with them being northerners and me being a southerner lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Take it easy buddy, still a small puppy leave the whole sit and stay put thing just yet. You want trust, adoration and come in to call and get some praise / reward (dont poop in the house etc ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Take it easy buddy, still a small puppy leave the whole sit and stay put thing just yet. You want trust, adoration and come in to call and get some praise / reward (dont poop in the house etc ) Agree with that. Also as said depends on the standard you are looking for, as the dog matures and training progress it will learn who to listen to and who not to but it is not the easiest way to get sharp reactions from the dog if it gets used to hearing multiple people issuing commands. If you're really worried use different commands, as far as the dog is concerned it is only a sound that triggers a reaction. I helped a friend with dog that was terrified of the command to "sit" as it had come to him around 10 months old and had obviously been hard treated in an attempt to get it to sit to the extent it would not sit, we went back to basics and used "ground" (as in, put your backside on it) as the trigger and the dog was sitting well in one training session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 "Treated" is the operative word, WGD - you can hold a treat (piece of kibble) above an 8 week old puppy's head and it will sit of its own volition so it can maintain eye contact with the treat. Instead of "An army travels on its stomach," as twist to the old saying, "A puppy trains on its stomach." Sometimes they learn to sit so well as pups, they incorporate it into their behaviour of asking politely to be sent for a retrieve. The tone of a command - and the body language behind it - are ever so important. Next is consistency in giving - and enforcing - it. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 "Treated" is the operative word, WGD - you can hold a treat (piece of kibble) above an 8 week old puppy's head and it will sit of its own volition so it can maintain eye contact with the treat. Instead of "An army travels on its stomach," as twist to the old saying, "A puppy trains on its stomach." Sometimes they learn to sit so well as pups, they incorporate it into their behaviour of asking politely to be sent for a retrieve. The tone of a command - and the body language behind it - are ever so important. Next is consistency in giving - and enforcing - it. MG nice pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 nice pair Yeah, sometimes they're a hindrance when sitting, especially sitting with a retrieve, and it's better to have more of the X chromosomes to help with your landing. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point and shoot Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 He's a dog. You're the Alpha Mail. He'll know who to listen to when it matters! In the mean time let all of you enjoy him being a pup! Good luck. Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 what sort of dog is it anyway? Hi pegleg31, he's a cross between a Labrador (dad) and a springer (mum). Here's a few pics of him when when he was about 10 weeks old: Regards, Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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