sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Anyone know if you can replace a fibre wad with a cork one in a fibre wad recipe Just seen some good prices for 20g x 15mm ones at siarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 dont quote me, but i think they can be used without an OP card. the cork wads are tough. i`ll try and find a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 no, use a overpowder card with cork as well. i think clay and game suggested it for the .410 cork wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 no, use a overpowder card with cork as well. i think clay and game suggested it for the .410 cork wads. How are the pressures and performance compared to fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) How are the pressures and performance compared to fibre How long is a ball of string? There are too many factors involved! It ain't that simple! Think of the millions of combinations of powder/primer/wad composite/payload/bore-size/lubricant/frictional coefficients/ powder lots, et al. ... and what do you mean by fibre? There's 'vegetable' fibre, sugar-beet pulp fibre, bitumen vegetable fibre, felt, hard fibre, soft-fibre, horse-hair 'fibre', capped fibre, uncapped fibre, 'newsprint' fibre.... Cartridge development is an ongoing programme; changes are made frequently; 'experiments' are conducted everyday, day on day, with state of the art testing equipment; U-turns are often made... ...and the obvious... THERE'S CORK and THERE'S 'CORK' and there's cork/felt/cork and there's cork products and felt......and there's composite cork...... and there's.... What do you say, Paladin? Edited January 17, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) How long is a ball of string? There are too many factors involved! It ain't that simple! Think of the millions of combinations of powder/primer/wad composite/payload/bore-size/lubricant/frictional coefficients/ powder lots, et al. Cartridge development is an ongoing programme; 'experiments' are conducted everyday, day on day etc. ...and the obvious... THERE'S CORK and THERE'S CORK and there's cork and there's cork and felt......and there's composite cork...... and there's back-street ballistics experts with Mickey Mouse equipment. That was helpful Maybe you better stay on here a bit more, save us Mickey Mouse ballistics experts from contributing anything that might upset your sensibilities. Miserable old sod Edited January 17, 2011 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) That was helpful Maybe you better stay on here a bit more, save us Mickey Mouse ballistics experts from contributing anything that might upset your sensibilities. Miserable old sod you read it too quickly and jumped too quickly.... PMT? Just trying to stop you 'blowing yerself up'! Edited January 17, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 you read it too quickly and jumped too quickly.... PMT? Think you're the one with PMT. Do you have an answer to my OP or a link to buy wad guides for a Texan, think I might have it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Think you're the one with PMT. Do you have an answer to my OP or a link to buy wad guides for a Texan, think I might have it myself It would be a good buy, Andy. The FW is a good strong reliable press and bits are easy to make. Go with the wads/powder/primer/hull-type used by your fav. manufacturer. You won't go far wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 It would be a good buy, Andy. The FW is a good strong reliable press and bits are easy to make. Go with the wads/powder/primer/hull-type used by your fav. manufacturer. You won't go far wrong. That's all very well but...Do you have an answer to my OP or a link to buy wad guides for a Texan. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 That's all very well but...Do you have an answer to my OP or a link to buy wad guides for a Texan. Cheers What's an O.P.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ooops, sorry. WAD GUIDES? I'll have a look in my treasure chest tomorrow. I've a feeling I found a substitute guide for the Texan. May even have a spare original for you. (TEXAN went out of business years ago. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 What's an O.P.? Original Post. It's a term us Mickey Mouse ballistics experts use when we start a thread. Can we replace a 15mm 20g fibre wad in a recipe with a cork one of similar dimensions and are there any downsides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ooops, sorry. WAD GUIDES? I'll have a look in my treasure chest tomorrow. I've a feeling I found a substitute guide for the Texan. May even have a spare original for you. (TEXAN went out of business years ago. ) This wad guide is OK but I'm thinking ahead. Done about 500 shells since it's been sitting here and I'm getting attached to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Original Post. It's a term us Mickey Mouse ballistics experts use when we start a thread. Can we replace a 15mm 20g fibre wad in a recipe with a cork one of similar dimensions and are there any downsides 'Observation Post' Seriously, any shells, other than 12g*, I 'invent' (substitute components) I have pressure-tested. I cannot answer this; apart from saying if it was Blackpowder it wouldn't matter much! It seriously can be a mine-field out there when other components are substituted. *I have my own lead-crusher for 12g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 'Observation Post' Seriously, any shells, other than 12g*, I 'invent' (substitute components) I have pressure-tested. I cannot answer this; apart from saying if it was Blackpowder it wouldn't matter much! It seriously can be a mine-field out there when other components are substituted. *I have my own lead-crusher for 12g. OK, that's a fair comment, I'll just stick to the original recipe. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Andy, about the wad guide. It's no surprise that most 12gauge wad guides are similar because of the size and because most manufacturers studied the designs of others! I have been working on a solution for you today; it seems that a LeeLoadAll guide can be fashioned to fit into the guide housing on your Texan FW; maybe also, the NEW type ABS guide for a MEC can be turned down with a 'lip' to fit. I suppose you are aware that the guide on a TEXAN FW can be prised from its holder on the bar? I have started cutting away a Lee to see how it goes. I think it may have to be reduced in dia. I'll send you what I've done if it can be fitted. Regards, Alan. Edited January 18, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 In theory you have to have one felt wad in a cartridge to expand and seal the bore tightly. Under firing they compress and bulge outwards but how much depends on the wad and various other variables. However cork wads are fine for taking up space and usually cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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