Darcshadow Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) hey guys, few questions today; (im a complete noob at this so bear with 1) is reloading 12Bore cartridges cost effective? especially from number 7.5 lead shot through to number 1 steel? 2)can you reload very well with fibre wads? coz all the videos i have seen using a lee load all 2 (which i can get for £52) use plastiwads... most places i shoot only allow fibre... 3)can you buy fibre easily? 4)if you have experience with a lee load all 2; can u adjust the amount of powder and shot very well for example shooting a 24gram load all the way up to 32/36 gram? 5) which powder grade/range is used for shotguns? (so i can price up) 6) how old do you need to be to buy primers and powder? thanks peeps Edited January 28, 2011 by Darcshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 and peter lawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you are looking to save money , forget it. If you want to make better cartridges and enjoy shooting them read on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) the ajustment is thrugh bushings so its a little messing about to get to know what they throw but a guy had a grate idea on hear to fine tune them ill have a look and see if i can find the pics. and yes you can do fiber wads with the lee. as for powder look for vectan as/a1/gm3 you will find them the cheepest Edited January 28, 2011 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 try this and look for f c http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/148684-reloading/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanky Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you are looking to save money - forget it on normal clay/pigeon/game loads unless you make your own lead shot, if you are loading big steel loads 3` or 3 1/2` then yes it is worth doing. I started with the Lee Load-All and it was ok for a few loads but MEC is what you want if you are serious about loading at a sensible price. If you are thinking of loading fiber wads they are a real pain to load compared to plastic. Depending how many you shoot during the year - i would just buy the fiber ones but steel is worth looking into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 hi hanky wich mec you got is it a single stage or a progresive press as withe the single stage the load bar dont go across automaticly but the progresive dose but if you only pull the handel half way just befor the bar starts to move you can get the nitro card in then pull the hadel all the way when you have got the colum hight right no problem with them but the single stage(e.g. lee load all mec 600jr) is easyer as the charge bar is not moved until you move it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 mec 600jr, is a great bit of kit. all reloaders need to be set up, after that it run-run -run ! i use my reloader staions independently, so i`ll prime 50 cases, then powder /wad 50 cases, then shot drop 50 cases, then crimp in one big crimpathon. i drop checked this method, and its fine. with the a few bushings i got no variation i could detect in powder drops. constant at 15.1grain. at 30 or so drops. cook. its how you use it makes the difference ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanky Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 hi hanky wich mec you got is it a single stage or a progresive press as withe the single stage the load bar dont go across automaticly but the progresive dose but if you only pull the handel half way just befor the bar starts to move you can get the nitro card in then pull the hadel all the way when you have got the colum hight right no problem with them but the single stage(e.g. lee load all mec 600jr) is easyer as the charge bar is not moved until you move it I have a progressive MEC and ended up gluing the nitro cards to the felt wad so it would go in all at once but they didnt go through the wad guide and in the cases very well, I only did a few when I had to use them on places where plastics were banned, I dont go there any more so only use plastics now, after using a progressive machine you probably wouldnt go back to the 600jnr as you can load much quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 i have a MEC600JR i believe i bought it off mr cookoff (its still going good pal) fibres arnt bad to load at all , thats all i use it for, be prepared to mess a few up setting up and finding the right stack height , after that like has been said run run run, the biggest bonus i have found with the kit i have got is the adjustable charge bar ! god that makes life easy ! simply increase or decrease the cavity to required weight of powder and shot and away you go , super flexible to different loads and with the mec600 you can buy different calibre tooling to enable reloading of different gauges and cart sizes ! another big bonus . get a mec you wont look back... when its pigeon bashing time i knock out 500 at a time down the shed with the radio on , it can be a bit of a chore if your pushed for time, so be prepared to take a few hours out to make them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 forgot to add , has to be peter lawman for powder vectans or gm.3, sandwell fieldsports for primers cheddites cx2000's, and folkstone engineering supplies for fibre wads... makes reloading super cheap pal.. as for shot, thats the tricky part, it pays to know the right people, i had a load off a chap on here and i have a load off a chap at my shooting ground which is ballast weight which i buy for scrap value (lucky me) ! sometimes it just falls into your lap other times its a painfull experiance buying some at full retail.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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