Luckyshot Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) thanks for the offers,i've been in touch with basc and they told me that it would be illegal for me have a shot of someone else's firearm unless they owned the land, andrew I would ring BASC back up and ask them to think about the answer they gave you. You may use someone elses firearm in their presence so long as they are the owner/occupier/servant of that land. The word occupier/servent is a bit of a grey area as no one will give you a definate answer as to what qualifies someone to be an occupier/servent. Edited February 17, 2011 by Luckyshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Interesting as that isn't exactly true, or there would be no way you could use an estate gun with a keeper or stalker and you definitely can. This what I'm getting at in my post above. The the crux of it... Section 16(1) of the Firearms Act 1968 (as amended) allows a person to borrow a firearm from the occupier of private premises and use it in the presence of either the occupier or their servant without holding a firearm certificate in respect of the rifle. An occupier although ambiguous is the land owner or the person with sole shooting rights, often a keeper. Its silly pedantics. Edited February 17, 2011 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 This what I'm getting at in my post above. The the crux of it... Section 16(1) of the Firearms Act 1968 (as amended) allows a person to borrow a firearm from the occupier of private premises and use it in the presence of either the occupier or their servant without holding a firearm certificate in respect of the rifle. An occupier although ambiguous is the land owner or the person with sole shooting rights, often a keeper. Its silly pedantics. It is. but you would have thought his shooting organisation would have given him a bit more advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 It is. but you would have thought his shooting organisation would have given him a bit more advise. i phoned basc just for them to answer that particular question as i was trying to sort out a letter for feo,basc are dealing with the firearms department on my behalf about the experience/mentoring problem which i'm having with my feo as it's not required by law,the guy at basc who i'm dealing with(Alun) seems to be a very helpful guy,cant fault him upto now,i will keep you informed of the outcome, andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Would have been nice if you had posted this in your opening thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Would have been nice if you had posted this in your opening thread. my first post was on monday,i did not contact basc until tuesday, andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshed Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I say again Andy, if you need some proof of experience I'm happy to help. I've got land that I own that's fully cleared, so definitely covered by the estate rifle provision, and I did 5 years in green teaching sprogs how to use things a damn sight more dangerous than a .22 rimfire. Ask your FEO what he would like as evidence and I'm sure that I and others like Foxbuster can help you provide it. We could do a day here and work through from the basics of gun handling up to range estimation, backstops, shot selection etc. and I'd put it in writing in a suitable form. Having met you in person I don't think that there's much I could teach you about shooting, but if the FEO wants to make you jump through hoops then I'll be pleased to help you with it. Hope this helps. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I say again Andy, if you need some proof of experience I'm happy to help. I've got land that I own that's fully cleared, so definitely covered by the estate rifle provision, and I did 5 years in green teaching sprogs how to use things a damn sight more dangerous than a .22 rimfire. Ask your FEO what he would like as evidence and I'm sure that I and others like Foxbuster can help you provide it. We could do a day here and work through from the basics of gun handling up to range estimation, backstops, shot selection etc. and I'd put it in writing in a suitable form. Having met you in person I don't think that there's much I could teach you about shooting, but if the FEO wants to make you jump through hoops then I'll be pleased to help you with it. Hope this helps. Paul A very good offer, well worth taking up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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