al4x Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 refer to GB with scopes his PV was a much better deal than a Z6 from memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 well ive heard lots of good things on the Swaro's, but i dont see many Variable S&B's come up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 mcleods usually have a heap in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Yes.. but make sure you buy one without a rail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Theres a S&B 8x56 for sale on the other unmentionable site! guy wants £400. preaching to the converted - paid more for mine sadly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoogs Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hello Gents Interesting thread, but another vote for the S&B 8 X 56 its a superb scope for lamping, its like looking at HD TV the amount of detail of the image transmission is superb. Perfect for foxing at 200 yrds +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 How many foxes are shot at 300 yards under the lamp with ANY scope? Either call them in or pick your conditions to go out so you can work the wind and it covers your noise so you can work into the animal and you can be sure of the shot. With a foxing calibre CF 300 yards is a bloody long shot at anything in perfect conditions, nevermind assessing drop and windage in the dark; I would rather be sure of the shot than miss and educate the fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 How many foxes are shot at 300 yards under the lamp with ANY scope? Either call them in or pick your conditions to go out so you can work the wind and it covers your noise so you can work into the animal and you can be sure of the shot. With a foxing calibre CF 300 yards is a bloody long shot at anything in perfect conditions, nevermind assessing drop and windage in the dark; I would rather be sure of the shot than miss and educate the fox. Agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I concur... Although I am now firmly in the camp of a decent variable... That said I had an 8x56 Swaro and rated it very highly (the local foxes didn't mind). That said, extra mag can be god send with long shots and even with some under 200 - I've picked up a fair few that layed up in stubble with only the top of their head showing, it's situations like this were a good variable really does help.... that and 700 yard hare shooting with a HMR :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 With a foxing calibre CF 300 yards is a bloody long shot at anything in perfect conditions, nevermind assessing drop and windage in the dark; I would rather be sure of the shot than miss and educate the fox. its an even longer shot with an 8x56 and is just luck if you hit it, with a decent variable you still get a decent fox image at that range, as GB says where they really pay off is when you can only see part of a fox as well as quarry ID especially when you can only see part of one. Those who have an 8x56 are of course going to say its all they need but if you've had one and moved on with a foxing rifle you know the benefits. The secondary benefit is it makes 200 yard crows far easier in daylight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 For the money 8x56 is hard to beat, I'd rather have a s&b/swaro 8x56 over a cheapo Variable any day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 For the money 8x56 is hard to beat, I'd rather have a s&b/swaro 8x56 over a cheapo Variable any day.. yes definately ! However it would be more beneficial with a Higher quality Variable, should your funds allow! i do feel my HMR would possibly benefit from a higher mag or variable scope but after having the S&B i dont think i could settle for anything less in quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 As my friend described it to me the other day... "you have swarovski-itis"... every other scope you look down simply WON'T be as good. Have to agree with him...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 As my friend described it to me the other day... "you have swarovski-itis"... every other scope you look down simply WON'T be as good. Have to agree with him...! Its not easy to settle for something of a lesser quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6br Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 if you are looking for a variable scope at the right money take a look at the Bushnell elite 4200 I have one in 4x16x50 and never struggled with it in any situation after 7 years of use, had S/B,swaro,zeiss,burris ,Leopold, to compare it with all in all a good scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindeye Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 to make this so much easiser to help you out how much are you willing to spend on a scope . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkPoacher Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 8x56 do provide great clarity but even if you only shoot foxes at sub 200 yards, a higher mag offers a larger target and kill zone. 99% of my foxes are shot at less then 200 yards but I would say 50% are spotted at over 300 yards away. A high mag makes initial identification so much easier. I bet a high percentage of 8x56 owners have squeaked a muntjac or two! I know I have! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 they are a nightmare round us, you know its likely to be a muntjac but they are always in hedges looking out at you and don't move. Under a filter they are just annoying, white light you can usually tell eventually but not at 200 yards Ginger cats are another that are hard to tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkPoacher Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Haha, even if it acts muntac like it's always worth a double check. Shot a vixen last week curled up at the base of a hedge in long grass. It never twiched under white light, my 2 buddies thought it was a munty but were glad I double checked! A head shot later they were convinced but at 250 yards it was hard to tell. Had to get 100yards closer to make sure. If it was middle of a field you can tel instantly but in cover it's a tough call! Alex, I still haven't decided between nightforce 5.5-22x56 or swaro pv 6-24-50 but now zeiss duralyte 3-12x50 at £550 seems tempting!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Haha, even if it acts muntac like it's always worth a double check. Shot a vixen last week curled up at the base of a hedge in long grass. It never twiched under white light, my 2 buddies thought it was a munty but were glad I double checked! A head shot later they were convinced but at 250 yards it was hard to tell. Had to get 100yards closer to make sure. If it was middle of a field you can tel instantly but in cover it's a tough call! Alex, I still haven't decided between nightforce 5.5-22x56 or swaro pv 6-24-50 but now zeiss duralyte 3-12x50 at £550 seems tempting!! Lol Surely a ginger cat is classed as vermin? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Not looked through the Zeiss reckon the mag isn't enough to make it worthwhile though really. If its lamping I have to say i think i'd go swaro, its light enough to take stalking if you end up doing any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 wow really opend up a can of worms hear thanks for all the different opinions i think it will be a s&b 8x56 just gonna start looking for a decent 2nd hand one now... if any body should hear of one please let me no Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 wow really opend up a can of worms hear thanks for all the different opinions i think it will be a s&b 8x56 just gonna start looking for a decent 2nd hand one now... if any body should hear of one please let me no Thanks. You will not regret it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindeye Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 wow really opend up a can of worms hear thanks for all the different opinions i think it will be a s&b 8x56 just gonna start looking for a decent 2nd hand one now... if any body should hear of one please let me no Thanks. give ivythorne sporting a ring ask for steve , he always has a good stock of quality second hand scopes , i bought my last swaro off him and it was a bargain . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I bet a high percentage of 8x56 owners have squeaked a muntjac or two! Not a problem (yet) up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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