Redgum Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Afer playing with various vinigar,salt and soap recipes in my ultra sonic cleaner I have at last found something that is brilliant. Its had its praises sung before on this forum but I just have to do it again. It may appear a little expensive intitially but you dilute it and one 480ml bottle will make 2 gallons of cleaner,thats not all, you can use the cleaning liquid over and over again( I quess it must get to dirty and loose its effectiveness sometime). If you manage to use it twice then that works out the bottle will do 4 gallons. It really cleans the cases inside and out,the inner case and primer pockets gleam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) Not that expensive, seen a few posts on here where it's been about £6 a bottle, I usually get mine when I'm in the US for just over £4. Citric acid works just as well and is pennies off Ebay, 1 teaspoon/Gal will do about 100 .308 cases. Follow that with a bicarbonate of soda rinse (1 Teaspoon/Gal), a clean (pref distilled) water rinse and dry and they come out spotless I'm only using the ultrasonic now on really bad primer pockets, most come out nice and clean after the citric acid wash. Edited March 13, 2011 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Here is the MSDS for it http://sport.birchwoodcasey.com/files/MSDS/%282010%2933845CASECLEANER.pdf it's a bit hazardous and it also states it is not compatible with zinc, One half of the content of brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Birchwood casey is fine with brass cases, it's what it's designed for Excellent article on 6mmbr on the subject here http://www.6mmbr.com/ultrasonic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) *cough* http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/154815-ultrasonic-changed-my-mind/page__view__findpost__p__1317478__fromsearch__1 One thing I do know is that it eat's gun blue! :yp: Edited March 13, 2011 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 [quote One thing I do know is that it eat's gun blue! Thats the phophoric acid working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Not that expensive, seen a few posts on here where it's been about £6 a bottle, I usually get mine when I'm in the US for just over £4. Citric acid works just as well and is pennies off Ebay, 1 teaspoon/Gal will do about 100 .308 cases. Follow that with a bicarbonate of soda rinse (1 Teaspoon/Gal), a clean (pref distilled) water rinse and dry and they come out spotless I'm only using the ultrasonic now on really bad primer pockets, most come out nice and clean after the citric acid wash. I did buy some Citric Acid granules off ebay and tried them, they really didnt do alot,and it was a stronger solution than you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Strange, I bought 200 once fired Federal .308 cases off here, de-primed, lubed and fully resized then cleaned and they came up perfect Here's my routine (now with the Birchwood Casey added), 1. Citric Acid Wash (5mins hot water), Rinse, Baking Soda Wash (2 Mins Warm Water), Rinse and Dry 2. Case Lube, De-Prime and Full Length Size, Trim to Length 3. Clean Primer Pockets, Citric Acid Wash (as above), Birchwood Casey Wash and Dry 4. Tumble Polish 2 Hours 5. Check Case Condition, Prime 6. Spray Lube and Load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Do you clean the lube off before you load in step 6 then? Edited March 14, 2011 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 No, as it's a spray lube there is very, very little on the casing, just put the cases in a poly bag, small blast of lube, seal bag and shake, makes loading much smoother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 The Lyman spray lube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Either RCBS or I usually pick up a couple of bottles of Cabelas own brand when I'm across the pond as it's cheaper and does the same job http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Reloading/Tumblers-Scales|/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/104661180/Cabelas-Case-Lubricant/1187345.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-reloading-tumblers-scales%2Fcabelas%2F_%2FN-1100197%2B1000002949%2B4294771220%2FNe-1000002949%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd1187345%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd1187345%3Bcat104661180 Edited March 14, 2011 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Strange, I bought 200 once fired Federal .308 cases off here, de-primed, lubed and fully resized then cleaned and they came up perfect Here's my routine (now with the Birchwood Casey added), 1. Citric Acid Wash (5mins hot water), Rinse, Baking Soda Wash (2 Mins Warm Water), Rinse and Dry 2. Case Lube, De-Prime and Full Length Size, Trim to Length 3. Clean Primer Pockets, Citric Acid Wash (as above), Birchwood Casey Wash and Dry 4. Tumble Polish 2 Hours 5. Check Case Condition, Prime 6. Spray Lube and Load I put a teaspoon of citric acid granules into the water capacity of my ultra sonic cleaner for 480 secs ( water capacity is 500ml), seeing they were not so clean after this I repeated the process,no differant really, the water wasnt even that dirty. I will just stick to the Birchwood casey cleaner now. 480secs with Birchwood casey cleaner, rinse ( hot water as aids drying) Neck size and de prime 480secs in the Birchwood again Rinse and dry Resize,deburr,and polish with very small amount of brasso buffed with tissue. Cases are like new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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