quinster1973 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hi All, I'm new to shooting and have just bought my first gun. It was a budget Spanish s/s 12 gauge - all the dealer had on the ticket was "unknown good quality Spanish". I could attach some pics if someone can tell me how? Also there seems to be some pitting/corrosion marks on the outside of the mechanism - any ideas as to how best to tough these us and prevent further marks? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 How to identify a Spaniard? He'll be celebrating. Sorry, couldn't help myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 On the underneath of the barrels will be a set of marks symbolising the gun passing different stages of proof, one of these stamped marks will be of the Proof house that passed the gun for sale, and as each proof house has it's own unique proof mark, it's pretty easy to say the country of origin. Either that, or it's got 'Made in Spain' written somewhere on the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinster1973 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Cheers Bleeh. It's definitely Spanish as it has "made in Spain nitroproof" on the barrels. I'm just wondering if it can be pinned down to a maker - or is there thousands of shotguns coming out of Spain - maybe like looking for a needle in a Haystack? Anyone any ideas on how to touch up the the spots of corrosion? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Cheers Bleeh. It's definitely Spanish as it has "made in Spain nitroproof" on the barrels. I'm just wondering if it can be pinned down to a maker - or is there thousands of shotguns coming out of Spain - maybe like looking for a needle in a Haystack? Anyone any ideas on how to touch up the the spots of corrosion? Cheers! If they are rusted you can use Super fine (0000) Steel wool soaked in gun oil, using a gentle action will it remove small patches of rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Try red scotch bright and gun oil works well my old air gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinster1973 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Thanks for the help - will attack the rust with full gusto at the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hi All, I'm new to shooting and have just bought my first gun. It was a budget Spanish s/s 12 gauge - all the dealer had on the ticket was "unknown good quality Spanish". I could attach some pics if someone can tell me how? Also there seems to be some pitting/corrosion marks on the outside of the mechanism - any ideas as to how best to tough these us and prevent further marks? Thanks in advance. You don't get Good Quality Spanish Guns at budget prices. And if the maker is unknown how does the dealer know its good quality? Brownish stains on the mechanism can be powder residue, not necessarily pitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinster1973 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Same questions I was asking myself when he sold it to me Clive. That's why I wanted to track down the maker to see if I'd been stitched up. On the quality side of things - he had 3 or 4 guns to choose from (small local dealer)and it did "look and feel" better quality than the others but as a novice I'll not know until I speak to the guys at my club. If they roll about the floor laughing when I take it out I'll know I've been stitched up like a kipper! Cheers, Mark Edited June 1, 2011 by quinster1973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartB Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi, There are a whole range of small gunmakers in Spain. Most feed into larger concerns and the name of the original maker is often not recorded on the gun in any obvious way. The Basque region turns out some very good quality guns. AYA (Aguirre y Aranzabal) are well known in England for many years as the makers of excellent guns at very good prices. I still have a AYA Yeoman from the late 60's, which is based on a Holland and Holland design. It is a nice looking gun and well built. In fact you couldn't build one for the price these days to that quality. You probably have a gun from one of the small makers. Pictures would have been helpful, incl marks etc, but try the site below. spanish proof marks are at bottom of page. You should find that there are British proofmarks also. Some marks are easier to date than others, but it can get complicated, so best to find someone in your club who knows the subject. http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/archives/Proofmarks.pdf Good luck. Enjoy the gun, I'm sure it will be fine. Mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 As Mart says there are lots of servicable guns from Spanish manufacturers so you are as unlikely to have a bought dog as found a cheap quality gun and to be honest, and this might hurt those who buy expensive guns to improve their status, most people don't give a to$$ about what you shoot, they are too preoccupied with what they shoot. Just get it right and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinster1973 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Thanks for the link to the proof marks - I did see the marks on the gun so I'll have a wee look and compare. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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