243 rnd nose softpoints

[Redgum]

Has anyone used 100gr round nosed soft nosed bullets in 243 on deer.I have read a few articles on them having good stopping power, my local rfd has 100 hornady interlock roundnoses going cheap in 243 and was wondering if it was worth giving them a try.

[PAULT]

I use these good stopping power make sure your gun will stabilise them tho some 243s can be finicky.

[bk]

I've got hundreds but they don't group well in my rifle. A mate is getting moa with them though

Edited May 31, 2011 by bk

[Sprags]

They will stop things very well.

Edited June 1, 2011 by Sprags

[steve_b_wales]

I use them on foxes, with devastating results.

[Blunderbust]

I would buy 20 first so that you can try them out. I tried loads of different ones until I found the right round for my rifle, a Tikka T3 Varmint. Unfortunately the best ones were Norma 100gr sp at £32 for 20. I am now trying to get a tight group with RWS (Geko) 105 gr sp (£18 for 20). I didn't have to change the zero point from using the Norma's but they up until now have only managed 1 1/4" groups at 100 yards. I am hoping that I can get them to go on 1" or sub 1" as I use them more.

[Redgum]

And I thought Tikas put all ammo into tight little clover leaves Think Tikas have a 10:1 twist and sometimes find it hard to stabilise 100gr plus, though this does seem to vary on the rifle of course. My remmy is 9 1/8 twist and likes 100grs just want to try some rnd nose rnds to see what they are like on fallow.

[kent]

they shoot ok in mine generally though do not expect teeny weeny groups out of any partision or A frame type bullet they just don't have the balance as a genralisation. On fallow my favourite 6mm is the pro hunter it shoots good enough in mine to get the right placement and still ok for boiler room shots without too much red jelly.

[Redgum]

they shoot ok in mine generally though do not expect teeny weeny groups out of any partision or A frame type bullet they just don't have the balance as a genralisation. On fallow my favourite 6mm is the pro hunter it shoots good enough in mine to get the right placement and still ok for boiler room shots without too much red jelly.

Have been using prohunter, when I can get them, have gamekings at moment and find accuracy exactly the same just the later like 0.5grain extra vit. Yes, I know your going to ask why change but heard alot about the roundnose knock down power on animals at the top range of 243 capability(that will cause some arguements I'm sure).Cant find any data on them though.

[kent]

Have been using prohunter, when I can get them, have gamekings at moment and find accuracy exactly the same just the later like 0.5grain extra vit. Yes, I know your going to ask why change but heard alot about the roundnose knock down power on animals at the top range of 243 capability(that will cause some arguements I'm sure).Cant find any data on them though.

 

knock down is largely b/s using one expanding deer bullet over another in 6mm cal, meat damage is the only real reason to try balanced bullets. If anything more fragmentation will give better knock down, stick with the seirras and just consider placement with care

[Redgum]

knock down is largely b/s using one expanding deer bullet over another in 6mm cal, meat damage is the only real reason to try balanced bullets. If anything more fragmentation will give better knock down, stick with the seirras and just consider placement with care

It depends who you talk to really doesnt it, the justification I was given for rnd nose was that due to rnd nose it generates more impact early on yet slightly thicker jacket controls expansion.This is all theory I quess and there is only one way to find out.

[kent]

It depends who you talk to really doesnt it, the justification I was given for rnd nose was that due to rnd nose it generates more impact early on yet slightly thicker jacket controls expansion.This is all theory I quess and there is only one way to find out.

not realy it depends on if the person who is telling you actually understands terminal effect. fastest knock down is greatest internal damage. balanced bullets are a half way house giving front end expantion and a beefy non expanding base that will dive deeper. only advantages are less meat damage, better blood trail / strike through and more chance of adequate penetration on badly placed shoulder shots. i suppose if we are talking reds with a 6mm balanced bullets (a-frame and partision) give you better than norm for cal penetration, but shot placement will do more for you than anything else. Case in point NZ government deer cullers were issued .222 's initially for some of the biggest stags there are, they did just fine- using exact spot on the spot shooting

as for round nose, this means nothing much on its own. jacket type, layout and thickness are what effects a bullets ability to kill in a certain way not the shame of the front

[kent]

let me know what bullet and what powder and i will sort a max load out on quickload for you

[kent]

Hornady rn 2455 100grn

100% fill 44.78 grn N160 , max presure load 103% fill 46.5 grn. COL is listed as 68.83 mm. Remember to reduce for starting loads and that this load might not be safe in your rifle, safe reloading practices should be followed regardless of information given as tollerances might make the above maximum load too high and dangerous in your rifle.

Hope that helps

[Harnser]

I was reading some where this week that the 100 grain .243 struggles to make the minimum power (1700 foot pounds at the muzzel ) for shooting deer .

 

Harnser .

[kent]

I was reading some where this week that the 100 grain .243 struggles to make the minimum power (1700 foot pounds at the muzzel ) for shooting deer .

 

Harnser .

 

in ultra short barrels like on the scout, thats true however 20" which is generally considered short there are no issues, using lighter bullets is were the issues can otherwise occur. similar can be said of some bigger cals that have massive reserves of power but cant make the minimum speed required. At the end of the day its just were they drew the line during the legislation. The .243" cannot be used for licenced night culling in Scotland though that doesn't effect the sport shooter, again nothing changes physically to the deer after nightfall. One should check your loads over a chrono if traveling to certain venues however - Like Aran

[Redgum]

Hornady rn 2455 100grn

100% fill 44.78 grn N160 , max presure load 103% fill 46.5 grn. COL is listed as 68.83 mm. Remember to reduce for starting loads and that this load might not be safe in your rifle, safe reloading practices should be followed regardless of information given as tollerances might make the above maximum load too high and dangerous in your rifle.

Hope that helps

Cheers for that Kent, 68.83 is touching the lands in my Remmy 700 so I will take it back a bit, the rifle likes a little bit of a jump with most ammo. I will start around 40grns as my pet load with vit160 and prohunters is 42grs with cci primers. The rifle twist is 9 1/8 and I find the best loads are usually better under calculated max, maybe the twist increases pressure as most are based on 10.1.

[kent]

Cheers for that Kent, 68.83 is touching the lands in my Remmy 700 so I will take it back a bit, the rifle likes a little bit of a jump with most ammo. I will start around 40grns as my pet load with vit160 and prohunters is 42grs with cci primers. The rifle twist is 9 1/8 and I find the best loads are usually better under calculated max, maybe the twist increases pressure as most are based on 10.1.

Twist shouldn't increase presure but getting close to the launds will, unusual to find a short jump on a remmington. Generally you find two accuracy nodes one low and one high

[stalker8642]

loads of rubbish, .243 100gr. is NOT suitable for Red stags and Sika stags. I shoot/cull over 100 reds and 60 sikas a year and I strongly advise to use .270 130gr or .3

0.06 150 gr. soft nose ammo. I am using Federal Classic and this ammo does the job time after time....

[Redgum]

loads of rubbish, .243 100gr. is NOT suitable for Red stags and Sika stags. I shoot/cull over 100 reds and 60 sikas a year and I strongly advise to use .270 130gr or .3

0.06 150 gr. soft nose ammo. I am using Federal Classic and this ammo does the job time after time....

Wind yr neck in mate and read the post, nobody said anything about Reds and Sikas before you start shouting rubbish. I think you will find though that 1000's of Reds and sikas have been shot with 243 over the years.

[Buster223]

one of the estates near me shoots about 300 hinds and about 150 stags and they all use 243 100grain soft points.

[kent]

loads of rubbish, .243 100gr. is NOT suitable for Red stags and Sika stags. I shoot/cull over 100 reds and 60 sikas a year and I strongly advise to use .270 130gr or .3

0.06 150 gr. soft nose ammo. I am using Federal Classic and this ammo does the job time after time....

 

so your experiance with the .270 says the .243 is no good does it firstly i do actually agree that a bigger calibre is better in point of blood strike if you have no dog and also for meat damage on boiler room shots. However "NOT" suitable i don't think so and i have used it a heck of a lot and also done a fair amount with 140 grn 7mm and 150-180 grn 30 cal. The biggest cull of red stags in history conducted in NZ the government shooters were issued with .222 rem rifles for ease of carry and quantity of ammo that could be carried- it seemed to work though not legal in the uk.

A point often forgotten when talking calibres is lighter kicking calibres are far easier to shoot well from all posisions and with this in mind i should much rather have an ocasional shot along with me using a .243 win than say a .30 cal magnum. This is as shot placement is the boss over calibre any day.

Now before anyone harps on about .270 being the minimum for night culling licence in Scotland, we are talking about the same Deer commision that used the lowly .22 rf for pen culling of reds at night under the somewhat (in my opinion) dubious cover of "humane destruction" hence avoiding normal calibre legislation.

yeah, i supose i was once in a similar mind to youself as regards the .243" but in truth the more you use it the more you learn about bullet selection and shot placement the more you understand why its the top selling gun worldwide it is