Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) After Person 22 showed his nice Beretta Semi i though it my DUTY to show my small contribution First off my Colectables Winnie the Winchester 1959 model 12 12g pump action skeet gun Browning A5 12g semi auto Remmington Model 11 12g semi auto Cooey 410g single barrel Browning A5 12g semi auto in Synthetic furniture Belgian 410g Side by Side hammer action circa 1925 Baikal Single barrel 12g LG Edited April 12, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Part 2 of this post And the more modern stuff My Franchi 12g semi auto Rizzini E sideplate sporter 12g O/U M/C AYA Yeoman 12g O/U M/C Hatsan Escort 12g Semi Auto M/C with 3&1/2" chamber And my Air rifles Falcon FN19 .177 with Logun pickle and 6-18X50AO scope And the bairns Baikal IZH61 Also a Box of Eley Alphamax wax paper cartridges circa 1960 ish And on of said Eley Alphamax cartridges LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 nice collection there the O/U is looking a bit naked? are you in the middle of refinishing it? some intresting pieces how do you find the franchi (looks like a 48 AL hunter) heavy on recoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) It is indeed the AL 48 Recoil? Never have a prob with it all my semi's (exc the 3&1/2") are all quite soft on the shoulder. I don't feel the recoil for some reason My mate says thw Winny has a difinitive wallop but i fail to find it??? And yeah the AYA was undergoing stock plastic surgery Looks heaps better than the cacky varnish finish. I HATE varnish LG Edited April 12, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Not much engineering thaught went in to the design of the single scope mount for the air rifle on the bottom. I bet the slightest knock will have that off zero. Some good collections though Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) Dave The scope rail is in 2 sections and the Russian scopes must be different to ours as no scope would fit in the scope mounts if they are on the 2 rails Even when i use a Longer scope the eye releif is STILL terrible. I just fitted one to get round it and to be honest it's been used day after day in the yard by the bairn propped on the wall etc and the zero is still spot on Besides the laser is also zero'd so if the scope moves i just rezero it onto the red dot I am getting shot of it anyway i want er i mean the BAIRN wants a Crosman nightstalker Besides what do you expect for £15 LG Edited April 12, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 It is indeed the AL 48 Recoil? Never have a prob with it all my semi's (exc the 3&1/2") are all quite soft on the shoulder. I don't feel the recoil for some reason My mate says thw Winny has a difinitive wallop but i fail to find it??? And yeah the AYA was undergoing stock plastic surgery Looks heaps better than the cacky varnish finish. I HATE varnish LG i recently bought off here a early 48 AL and it is the heaviest recoiling gun i have ever handleded without a shaddow of a doubt. It is not down to the cartridges, it is down to the sort of blow back action (the whole barrel travels backwards after the shot) and the light weight of the gun. I think i will be selling this gun on once ive finished refinishing the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) All my Semi's barring the Escort have the blow back action and as i say i have no trouble with any of them If you have a 32g load up over you are supposed to turn the gas ring around on these and it lessens the recoil Even my 13 year old stepson who is as skinny as a rake 5 foot 2 and about 6 stone gets away with them all too The Franchi is one of my Favourites The Browning A5s are heavy as is the Remmy but weight is another factor i am comfy with carrying a shotgun all day is fine. LG Edited April 12, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 All my Semi's barring the Escort have the blow back action and as i say i have no trouble with any of them If you have a 32g load up over you are supposed to turn the gas ring around on these and it lessens the recoil Even my 13 year old stepson who is as skinny as a rake 5 foot 2 and about 6 stone gets away with them all too The Franchi is one of my Favourites The Browning A5s are heavy as is the Remmy but weight is another factor i am comfy with carrying a shotgun all day is fine. LG gas ring? enlighten me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) Take your foregrip off then your barrel on top of the srping you should have a 2 part ring 1 inner ring 1 outer ring to hold the innner ring onto the magazine tube. Below that is another ring flat on one side and champhered on the other. If using 32G or higher carts make sure the champhered edge is facing toward the muzzle of the gun and the 2 part ring should have a square edge and a ramped edge. place the RAMPED edge facing into the champhered ring and when they heavier carts fire this nips the ring onto the mag tube and slows the recoil (dampens it) If using 28 or 30G shots turn the champhered edge of the 1 part ring toward the receiver and on the 2 part ring make sure the flat edge faces the receiver also and sits on the flat top of the 1 part ring. Mine wouldn't cycle 28G loads i was told about the rings and changed em over "et voulais" but when i put a 36 through Then i turned it back to the MAGNUM setup and it was fine again It sounded to me like to were getting the whole force of the blowback bottoming out the action a bit like a car hitting a bump and the shockers hitting the top (no suspension) LG Edited April 12, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 any chance of a picture with it setup in the low recoil position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 ive just looked and i can barely tell the difference between the sloped side and the champhered side. should the piece with the plat side and champhered side be furthest from the muzzle out of the 3 parts or closest to? will try and get some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 parts in order from Receiver Spring 1 piece ring then the 2 piece ring SOME people used to put the 1 piece ring UNDER the spring ontop of the receiver LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 im affraid its a rubbish pic (phone) but this is how the gun came. the flat side of the washer is facing away from the action. so on the brass coloured ring what are the two edges it should have? and which one is the low recoil one? i have no idea how old this gun is, so it could be this part is worn out, but its worth a go before i sell it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 the ring which is over the brass part is a split ring as well, as is the brass ring itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Ring on the RIGHT should go on top og the spring Then the 2 part ring should go on top of that. As said Ring on right has a side with a ramp leading into it And the 2 part ring has a ramped side and a flat side IF using 32G carts or higher place the RIGHT ring with the flat side ontop of the spring and the ramped side facing the muzzle And the 2 part ring with the ramped edge facing the ramped 1 piece ring For Light Loads Right hand ring with ramp facing DOWN the gun to the receiver and on the 2 part ring make sure the ramped side is facing the muzzle So the 2 FLAT sides are touching each other LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 the ring which is over the brass part is a split ring as well, as is the brass ring itself This stops the INNER ring from opening and keeps it snug on the Mag tube dont worry anout that LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzie Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 great collection,you must have one hell of a cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I have 2 now i bought another on Sunday but need another too as i want a few side by sides and pumps yet LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I have 2 now i bought another on Sunday but need another too as i want a few side by sides and pumps yet LG Thinking of opening up a shop prehaps?? Nice well kept guns sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi Frank No not a shop i just want a bit of everything. Seen a beautiful SbS for under £300 and thats next on my list Case hardened scoll work on the action and immaculate woodwork too. Also i want a few pumps to keep Winnie company a 410g pump and another 12g Maybe another 4 or 5 and that will do me fine For now LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi Frank No not a shop i just want a bit of everything. Seen a beautiful SbS for under £300 and thats next on my list Case hardened scoll work on the action and immaculate woodwork too. Also i want a few pumps to keep Winnie company a 410g pump and another 12g Maybe another 4 or 5 and that will do me fine For now LG You must have a lot of time to use all this colection? Great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Too much time Always taking something new to the clay grounds When i took winny up she cause a stir i can tell you. Loads of older chaps gawped at her and asked if they could take her out and try her. Have her back by 4 i said They took her on the Skeet and had load of fun it was like seeing a kid with a new toy they had that look in their eyes 3 offers of purchase in 20 mins of arriving LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Lord Geordie, how do u find the escort? im getting a bit annoyed with mine either jams now and again, or sumtimes misfires. very nice collection you have there by the way, love the winnie ive always like the look of pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Which Chamber have you got??? 3" or 3&1/2"? The 3&1/2" can be fussy with light loads not cycling as the action doesn't get enough kick back and the empty shell and new one collide in the receiver and lock it up Still i normally take the Browning A5 if i am using lights and the Hatsan when on the 32G or higher and it's fine on 32g up over. The SLIGHTEST bit of dirt can cause a jam in the Mag too. If you drop a cartridge MAKE SURE you get it spotless before you put it in the mag tube. As for mis fires You ARE letting the bolt SLAM shut aren't you??? Don't nancy it and hold the bolt and let is shut gently it NEEDS the smack to engage the ejector round the shell base. If the ejector DOESN'T lock on the firing pin can't reach the primer. Also when you get a ligher shell again when it can't FULLY cylce because of inertia (or lack thereof) it can cause the same problem of not closing fully on the shells Try 32g or 36g and see what happens If you still get trouble send it back they have a 3 year warranty LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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