sterling Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Hi all, I'm new around here but I've been picking up great information since I found the forum a few weeks back. I've just made the move from non-fac air rifle to shotgun, so a huge learning curve has just begun. I've just started reloading 410 for a mossberg 500 and have a question to ask and possibly a can of worms to open; It seems Siarm (http://www.siarm.com/index.php?language=en) is cheapest for reloading components, so if I for instance buy 3" fiocchi hulls from them, fiocchi 615 primers and gualandi h40 wads, how the hell do I know which powder/quantity of powder, quantity of lead shot or how long I should make the overall payload length up to with wads/fillers if I'm roll crimping? Basically, without a pressure test gun and a chrono, is it possible to safely work up unpublished loads or do you guys just stick to existing data and go and search for those specific components listed? Jeez I hope that load of waffle makes sense to somebody Unfortunately, none of my mates shoot, so I've gotta learn all this alone from books/the net. Thanks a load! Edited July 7, 2011 by sterling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Presure in 410" is critical more so than in other gauges. you need a recipe to work too right primer case wad powder shot wieght. Click tenic on siarm a couple of loads there. Where to start is pick powder you want to use that you can get in this country. loading book plus scales is a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I would stick to the published data, at least to start with. Siarm have some 410 loads on their website and Clay & Game Reloaders will sell you just the 410 pages from their manual for £1 per page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 You need to find a recipe that suits your needs first, then buy the components for that recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Cx 50 , Vectan sp3 powder and h17 wad gives you some choice, Pay and download the 410 data sheet from clay and game for the precise data including sub sonics . Important get some reloaders scales if you do not have them. Edited July 7, 2011 by Andy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Sound advice, thanks a lot guys! Scales and some good reloading data are my top priority then. The shot dripper, press and the custom loads can wait until I've learned a thing or two. I think I just might enjoy reloading cartridges as much as I do shooting them! Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 the .410 is very challenging. the powders are very slow, just to keep the pressures down. i`ve been told, that the loads are extremely respondant to change. i`ve heard that a 3% decrease change in powder can kill a cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) A reloading press is not essential for .410 reloading. Digital Scales, (Ebay, about six quid plus p&p) De-prime/re-prime tool, (Schoolboy metalwork knowledge is all that is required to make your own.) A 12 gauge tool. Notice the 'spare' prod for the old Eley caps! MEC Supersizer, Expensive but a smart tool. (Get a mate to send a used one from the States!) RTO tool, fits in cheap bench drill. Powder and shot scoops Make your own; use 15mm copper tube and solder a penny to the bottom. Loading Block with 25 'holes'. (Make your own!) Enjoy! Edited July 10, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling Posted July 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) the .410 is very challenging. the powders are very slow, just to keep the pressures down. i`ve been told, that the loads are extremely respondant to change. i`ve heard that a 3% decrease change in powder can kill a cartridge. Thanks for the info cookoff. Yeah I've been told the 410 is a sensitive little sucker. Just learned today that it's one of the highest pressure shotgun loads at around 13000 PSI, versus the 8000(ish) for 12 gauge. :look: Great help there Floating Chamber! I'll have a go at making the powder/shot scoops and loading block, but I'll bite the bullet and buy a de-primer as I have visions of me igniting one on my rickety homemade tool. On the topic of reloading 410, I found this site which may be of interest to some of you: http://smallboreshotgun.org/tag/410-slug-loads/ I understand you can't load slug or big buck without an FAC, which should only take my police force another 2 years or so to process , but it's still interesting reading. Edited July 9, 2011 by sterling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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