SAVAGE HMR Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Be interesting at this Rifle do next May if there's a special HMR 17 300yd comp....it'll either prove or dispel the myth, that is if there is a one So what do you reckon coke can side on at 300yd, one shot, cold bore... :unsure: I dont know about one shot cold bore but I think it's possible when you know what the wind is up to. It's easy to judge where a 17 grain bullet will impact at 100 yards with a 10 MPH cross wind but 300 yards might be a bit harder. It's going to lose a lot of the velocity that keeps it on the 'straight and narrow' after 100 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzini Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Can i just remind you that its the BULLET that fragments, not the plastic tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Can i just remind you that its the BULLET that fragments, not the plastic tip! Not true mate, the tip shatters too. Depending on the tip that is. Below are some photos taken from Varmint Al's page on his field testing on the .17 HMR. He's using Hornady Red Tips and they do shatter. I heard a while ago that the only difference in the .17 HMR rounds was the packaging and the colour. All the polymer tips were supposed to be the same too, just differing in colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzini Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Not true mate, the tip shatters too. Depending on the tip that is. Below are some photos taken from Varmint Al's page on his field testing on the .17 HMR. He's using Hornady Red Tips and they do shatter. I heard a while ago that the only difference in the .17 HMR rounds was the packaging and the colour. All the polymer tips were supposed to be the same too, just differing in colour. Im not saying that they dont shatter, what im saying is that the tip is made to allow the bullet to fragment. The tip obviously does shatter in some cases, but the bullet was designed to that when the tip its a target at the velocity of the 17HMR it fragments the bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Im not saying that they dont shatter, what im saying is that the tip is made to allow the bullet to fragment. The tip obviously does shatter in some cases, but the bullet was designed to that when the tip its a target at the velocity of the 17HMR it fragments the bullet. Precisely. And I wouldn't say a tip in 2 halves has "shattered" the bullet certinally has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Im not saying that they dont shatter, what im saying is that the tip is made to allow the bullet to fragment. The tip obviously does shatter in some cases, but the bullet was designed to that when the tip its a target at the velocity of the 17HMR it fragments the bullet. I know what your saying, I understand the purpose of the ballistic tip. But, what I was saying was. Other tips break apart, shouldnt have used the word 'shattered' but seen as other tips break apart in something as soft as dough, why do the Remington tips not break or deform in any way when put up against bone. If all the balistic tips are made of the same material to serve the same purpose why am I finding these tips? I'm sure American dough isnt harder that Scottish rabbit skulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I think the tips are primarily to reduce drag, ie improve external ballistics, rather than aid expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I think the tips are primarily to reduce drag, ie improve external ballistics, rather than aid expansion. They do both as well as in centre fire calibres (what recoil) protect the point in the magazine from getting deformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I've got a hand full of Undamaged HMR polimer tips found behind a Large pine log i used for zeroing , i'll post a pic in a sec I was under the impression its the bullet that "Fragments" not the polimer tip Wb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 You are correct W.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 one more thing Remingtons use Horady tips Wb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I've got a hand full of Undamaged HMR polimer tips found behind a Large pine log i used for zeroing , i'll post a pic in a sec I was under the impression its the bullet that "Fragments" not the polimer tip Wb yep but all depends what you hit, if its hard usually the tip does break up. But as is the nature of the HMR so much depends on range and velocity when it hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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